Down and Dirty
Well down and dirty sure does win the award for most obscene and plentiful dirty talk I’ve read in a BL so far. However, it also wins the award for most problematic love story/couple or at least the most toxic top. Ugh idk man, that was truly sickening from head to toe. I can’t lie and say some (“some”) of the dirty talk wasn’t hot…. because it really was, BUT the sex wasn’t hot to match which was ugh *rme*. So then aside from some hot dirty talk what else is there? A toxic top, a wildly naive and stupid bottom, a nasty ass plot that downplays the entire concept of sexual assault at every turn nook and cranny it gets, a plot with holes that leaves off entire main characters and pretends they were never a thing, etc..... In short, this was quite irredeemably upsetting. UPDATE: hi, I re-read this randomly and for no reason. the dirty talk in this isn't nearly as serious as I made it seem in the first review lol. But that's because that first review was made when my experience with BL's of this nature was still quite small. so I know the me of the past was like "woah :o" haha. Anyway, coming back because I see I didn't give it a rating the first time, so I'll do that now. I liked the characters well enough and the world and the story and the art and the length and all that, BUT... as I said in my original review, I can not deny that it was a relatively upsetting read. Like... the MC being tortured as a sex slave for 2 years while the love interest plots his comeback? Mmmm, we don't like that. Like damn, MC decides to fall in love for the first time in his life and put his trust in someone and this is the consequence he has to suffer? It's wildly intense and sad. Also.... I get that the love interest dude almost died or what-EVER, but..... you being alive at all means that MC shouldn't have had to be in that place under those circumstances for nearly as long as he was. Like... two YEARS? Nah, hell nah. Also, for you to not even be the one to get him out.... he had to get himself out? Ew, if I was him there's no way I'd ever take your dumb ass back. Fuck that; frankly I might even arrange to have you killed lol. Haha okay maybe I wouldn't take it that far, but I would certainly not welcome you back with open arms the way MC does after you ruined his life and completely broke him, body and soul...... but hey..... that's what the MC wants so I guess I just have to let that go.... still made for an upsetting read... I see the score is as high as it is because this the kind of story that a certain subset of you bitches be liking and I can tell from the comments, lol. for me though, i'm giving this a 9.0 (and only that high because I'd be lying if I said I didn't find it enjoyable at all)
Master Of Master
I’m SCWEEEEEEEEEEMING... why I’m the hell did Polo have to rape Jooseong? I’m SORRY? Ago author what the fuck did ya boi do to deserve this kind of ending??. A, I missing something here?.? This is one of the most wild things I have laid eyes on on this site bro. The main story was wild all on its own, but the side story at the end? Completely out of pocket. Anyway, a whole lot of thoughts on this tbh, so much so, I’m going to have to come back for a more detailed review later. Let me just try to get out as much as I can of my immediate reactions now... I do not regret reading this. Unlike My Purrfect Boss, this did not make me so disappointed that I felt like it was a waste of my time. This soulless here is EXTREMLY high on my list of most toxic and unhealthy BL relationships, and not because I want it to be or because they don’t get along lol. At its fundamental core this couple cannot fly bro. This is even worse (waaaaaaaaaay worse) than the idea of Seshoumarou-sama being shipped with an adult Rin- and you already know how much I hate that one. This couple can literally never fly. Also, the dog god was weirdly kink shame-y??? Jungo was sups adorbs bruh, as both dog and human. That sadistic side of him was more or less in line wi5h my tastes mhmmm v smexy. His childishness was not a complete turn off either. Honestly, attractively wise as a whole he’s a solid 8/10 for me. POLO THO?? Lmfao, Polo isn’t like, necessarily more attractive than him but he just.... got a more wild introduction that really let him showcase himself in a different light? Anyway, they’re both very attractive and both seem to be natural-born sadists which I’m fucking with. We love that. I didn’t really like Jooseong at first tbh. I didn’t hate him, but he just gave off the vibe of a character I thought I wasn’t going to like ya know? But eventually I realized he’s actually a pwetty decent who did nothing wrong and I felt pretty damn sorry for him. The MC tho??? Ludicrous piece of shit lol. It’s wild how much if a piece of shit he is. I don’t even feel too much hatred towards him but objectively speaking he’s just as bad as scum-bag low-life’s come man, it’s sick. I cannot begin to emphasize how much better Jungo deserves over his trifle hoe of a master. lol, anyway I’m getting tired so maybe this is all I’ll comment on for tonight... still lots more thoughts tho, this was quite an interesting and controversial piece in ways that the author did not in any way intend for it the lol. Man was this an out of pocket read ugh, wild. I really wish I had someone to talk to about this. Rating is subject to change, but for now I’ll say.... 9.0 it’s very problematic yes and I do not endorse the ending or the views expressed. Y the author that made her think this ending was okay, but 1) art on point, 2) storytelling on point, 3) very real feeling characters (characters and their backstories had so much potential that they were low/high key wasted on this storyline tbh tho),..... you get what I’m saying- overall this author just really fucking knew how to create a quality webtoon bro, and content aside, you can’t take that away from them on this. Not only is this a quality webtoon when you set aside the content on the middle part when it comes to topics of consent looking murky in a caretaker-dependent relationshp and power play (in and outside of the bedroom), people using other in relationship to fill different needs in a healthy vs unhealthy way (we usually only explore the unhethyly and imply is always unheLalth) etc...... anyway lots of topic were brought up even though they are not explored throughly and the ones that are explored.... the concluding points made about were wrong dare I say immoral lollll. Weirdly enough not lacking in nuisance, but bringing up nuance and think8g about it just to give up at the end before you think of it all the way through and thus coming out with the wrong conclusion. Anyway yeah, well give it a 9.0.
Kiss me, Liar
So.... where to even start.... I do not regret reading this. I was on the fence about reading it sooooo much because the comments are super hot and cold with lots of people saying don't read it is it absolute rape-romanticizing scum and the other half saying despite the toxicity it was worth the read. Which camp do I ultimately fall in? Omph, unfortunately(?) the latter lol. I very much enjoyed myself reading this multiple times throughout. Let's be clear, this is one of the most egregious romantisization of rape I have ever witnesses in a BL and by one of the worst tops I have ever seen. Like, sheeeesh, it's a bit hard to find another top in a BL of this rating who treated their bottom quite thissssssss bad. Keith was... man it don't get much worse than Keith. As for what made the portrayal of rape so bad here, it wasn't just that the top rapes the bottom and then they still get together or even that the bottom forgives the top... no no no, the bottom literally tells the top, "you did nothing wrong; I was wrong" and it's just like, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wtf? Lol, like big wtf? Not just rape, but all kinds of physical and emotional violence this man inflicted, man he was so horrible and you tell him he actually did nothing wrong? Yikes, why'd we have to do some shit like that? Then to make matters worse when the bottom almost gets raped by someone else the top not only does not give a hoot, but also says "ugh, you're being such an inconvenience, why didn't you just let it happen?" and blames him for it and says he was playing innocent even though he knows he really wanted it. Disgusting. So yeah, that sums up the worst part of this. Other bad parts, I get upset when bottoms don't have self-respect and simp for tops who do them consistently dirty. So that p'd me off a ton. Personally, I hate it when tops have the nerve to be trash but they not even cute enough to make up for it so that also upset me tons lol. Even if they had to get together, I absolutely hate it when tops never end up apologizing for the shit they did. Keith literally never did. Hate this man, lol. Yeah, those were all of the complaints plot/character-wise. Other complaints though? I hated how the BL would skip time in the most random places at the most random times without doing enough transition-wise to make it smooth or sometimes even enough explanation-wise to make things make sense. It was jarring and not cute at all and disrupted the flow of the BL. It also seemed hella lazy tbh. On a similar note (and this is not the author's fault), the translation was alllllll over the place and often didn't make sense and that sucks but what ya gonna do I guess? It seriously did take me out of the BL though, to have this many different translation errors and screw ups. Not to mention image quality as well, *sigh*, oh well. Now, for the good stuff..... This could be made into a series of three movies. I can literally see it. When I say that I don't mean that it could as in ti could happen because omegaverse is wildly too niche for the mainstream movie world to handle atm so no, but I mean it in a way that's like daaaamnm I'd watch these movies. I'd direct the adaptation too lol. I feel like I know exactly what needs to be cut out, added, and changed to make this work. Hahah, yeah. Bottom baby get the BBB tag because even though he was a pathetic little no-self-respect-having simp headass nigga for his abusive daddy for most of this, he also managed to be a bad bitch too. His revenge plot was PHENOMENAL. Lolololol, I'm not saying the plan itself or the execution were great from a technical standpoint because there were obviously flaws in the plan and the execution didn't go well because he didn't get away with it ultimately lol. But I mean the emotional-intent behind it, the unexpected nature of it, and the specific dialogue that occurs in the prime moments to make it happen, as well as the speed with which the situation escalated afterwards after hell broke loose. UGHHHHHH I liveeeeee for the dramaaaaaa hahahahah. Best part of the whole thing and something I don't think I'll ever forget man that was mmmmm I was eating that bitch up- living for it!!!! Hahah, as if the MC being bounty chased wasn't enough, him and top jumping out of a movie car while shooting a gun to escape from being kidnapped happening directly after? Ugh, mwha chef's kiss. There was so much blood. The MC giving his last words like he was gonna die in that helicopter scene when they were rescued?Ugh omg I'm fangirling too much I fucked heavy with this entire middle part. Also, ima keep it real theses scenes were pretty hot and heavy throughout. They were fucked like animals and we love a bottom who is active and vocal during the deed. Hahahha anyway, that's all I'll really say for now. I think I talked enough about the good and the bad. I'm truly going to give this a 9.3 which is controversial AS FUCK given the what I said about it romanticizing rape but no one has to know I'm giving it this rating but myself lolol, yikes, but hehe. It was giving big time/medium time Viewfinder vibes- which is to say it was FLAMING HOT DUMPSTER FIRE TRASH LOL. But yall know I problematically love that shit. Guilty as charrrrrrged. SO yep - a 9.3 it is :3 PS: Dane was FOINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AF! SWEET MERCY ME
Rojiura Pussycat
Um...... this started off with full blown rape on the first encounter in public and for nothing..... I was 100% convinced this would get an 8.something out of me. Took two more chapters for the top to get batter at all...... but once things got better he did a wild 180!! Like.... hm. Shit got dumb cute out of nowhere. It was odd....... at first I was like “who is this for lol? is y’all’s kink getting treated this much like absolute trash?!” But now that I’m done I understand. The kink here is to see a top go from treating you like trash to seeing him do the 180 and cherish you to the utmost. That’s pretty damn unhealthy because it reminds me of all the women who want to believe they can get with a horrible partner and “change them”.... there’s already a shit ton of media depicting this exact thing, but none usually take the 180 this far (starting off with continuous straight rape!).....Anyway, its a shame that the top is smoking hot and therefore I may or may not (I did lol)have found this shit hot. How can I help it? The top has the looks and demeanor of Claude from Who Made Me a Princess!!!
An Innocent Sin
(not in proper timeline order) so ummmmm..... no one could ever know I was into this....... this was.... very messed up and hard to stomach at times.... it was also immensely hot..... Okay so basically most of the time I’m reading smut it’s BL. Most of the time I’m reading smutty BL, I am self-inserting as the bottom. But lately, I’ve been reading smut BL and self-inserting as the top. Not because I want to top really bad or dominate, but because the bottom is wildly enticing and I want him beneath me. This BL was basically created for any women who self-inserts as the top in the BL they read. It’s the only time I have ever encountered this: a story written like a BL (with all the usual BL tropes) but it’s not a BL because the couple is heterosexual.... how? And no, I do t mean a woman who is a top and a man who is a bottom. I truly mean a man who is a top and a woman who is a bottom and the woman is not even dominant/a power bottom or anything like that, she’s just a regular woman bottom but the man? Well he’s not exactly what I would call a submissive top in bed but....... ahhhh his personality and demeanor all in all in general is screeeeeeeaming “submissive and breedable”. Except he is also at times screaming “shoujo romcom love interest you got wet for”. I have never said the phrase “this awakened something in me” and meant it as much as I did after reading this. I want a Noah waaaaaaaaay more than I wish I did; I hurts how much I want him. He is a perfect mix of everything I love in my fav BL tops and everything I would love in a bottom if I were a BL top. And by that I don’t in any way mean he’s a mix like he’s in the middle or like, a switch. No. Not in the middle. He is both all and none but nothing in between. Nothing lukewarm ever, at all times he is either the perfect top, the perfect bottom, or both at once. It’s incredible to me. Now, let’s talk about where and why this submissive part of him is problematic. Not much to explain: it's clearly due to him being abused ever since he hit puberty (and then some before when he was a child and live with his first foster family). Ugh, I barely want to go into detail about this part because it makes me so uncomfy how hot I find the part of him that seemingly could only exist because he is a victim of extreme sexual abuse. The only way to make things better is for me to accept the idea that a man can exist with the same aspects of Noah that I love about him, without having to have the same trauma he has and well...... I struggle to convince myself of that fully. Anyway, seeing him be sexually abused makes me sad and turns me on. I am not turned on by the idea of him being abused or in pain. I am turned on by the idea of him being forced to experience pleasure and show vulnerable parts of himself in ways that men never ever do irl. That's partially the appeal of BL in the first place for me. Anyway..... one day I will revisit this and flesh out that last paragraph and the thoughts I have pertaining to that subject (hence the "let's unpack" label"). But for now let's move onto other things I like about this and/or was impressed by. 1) I liked the main character being able to be a woman who harbor extreme sexual urges and desires, but she most of the main characters find that a good like-able trait in her and not a bad slutty one. I especially like the way Noah and his sister describe her sexual tastes as being "down to earth" and like, natural? It was incredibly nice to hear. Refreshing as fuck and I don't see that often. While that was impressive, what was even moooooore impressive was 2) how poly-accepting/promoting this way! The main two couples swapped partners and had sex with each other at one point and 3 out of the 4 people involved were cool with it. Realistically enough, one of them still thought it was weird and got super jealous, but not in a destructive or problematic manner. Just in a, he is not 100% of the same sexually liberated mind as the rest of them yet. I think without being all "I'm making a point", and just being really natural with it, the author did a phenominal job of showing that different people meet different needs for you at times and as long as the two of you are cool with it, there's nothing wrong with being open about your relationship. Nayeon tells the dude who is not super on board with everything something like "I love Noah and no matter who else I have sex with , he is always the one I will come back to. The same goes for him." Well- I mean it sounded better than that and a bit more nuanced, but you get the vibe. It was so spectacular and made me happy. 3) The way that the story seems to be leaning toward 3 of the main side characters being in a poly relationship with each other (they are lowkey already there for real it's just not official) makes me happy too. I love it. 3.5) on that note, I like the S/M relationship and how it's portrayed between two of those characters as well. It was a nice addition to the story. 4) The last impressive thing in this were the sex scenes. When I say the sex scenes are impressive, I don't mean as impressive as the first three things I said were impressive and not in the same "I've never seen this before"/"this is so rare" way. Nah, they were just soooooooooooo frickin hot to me and really turned me on. (This has a lot to do with all the stuff I said about the different sides of Noah). I don't think I have this many bookmarks on anything I've read thus far. "6") What could have been impressive but fell short of being impressive? The trans representation. I love that character, but the way they handled/described them was just not on point in a way that I forgive because it makes it clear that the author themselves just doesn't seem to be all clear and caught up on terminology for said things. However, their heart was in the right place I think. :) I'll still give the effort points because most of the time trans people are not present at all. Okay, so now let's talk about the rest of the bad things, and wrap this review up. I already mentioned how problematic and messed up the whole "Noah being hot steaming from Noah's past of being abused" thing is as well as the "scenes with Noah's continued abuse are also super hot". Yes, that is not good. However, what I also need to say is just how far the author is taking this shit. Like, that's why people don't like it and said it became unreadable. She just makes things so incredibly bad for Noah from the start and then continues to make things worse and worse as we continue with no reprieve. Noah is obvi a sympathetic character and we love and care about him as readers so its so horrible to have to continue to watch the suffering ramp up in a way that makes it seem like the author doesn't care how sick it is. Yeah, it's fucked and if I could bring myself to stop reading it, I would for this reason alone. :( I'll probably revisit and revise this whole review when the series is finally over. So for now, I am going to give this a 9.2 and keep it pushing. Even with a 9.2 rating though, this here manga is as honorable as honorable mentions go on my list. Just, going to keep the fact that I read this and even more so the fact that I enjoyed it, hidden in the depths of my soul. SIDE NOTE: People in the comments keep villanizing the main character and I just will always think it is very sick and twisted the ways that women (and people in general) are socialized to tear women down the moment said woman steps out of the box of conventionality. Like, truly sick. You dumb fujoshis keep trying to argue about why Noah should be with Doye and it's annoying. You only want them together so it could be like a BL. I'm not going to say y'all are fetishizing gay men cuz I don't know y'all like that but you probs are. Doye is obvi in love or at least romantically obsessed with Noah. That's a given/But Noah was never really in love with that man the way y'all are trying to make it seem like he was. Noah said himself he was just looking for someone to help him cope with his abuse and give him hope of having a family that loves him one day. He was using him, and Doye was alright with that. Nothing was wrong with their relationship, but it wasn't mutual romantic love like that. Noah being able to experience sexual attraction to Doye just means Noah is attracted to men as well as other genders. Noah caring about Doye comes from the fact that Doye was his literal first friend which was made even more special by the fact that Noah was from an abusive household. "Nayeon and Noah feel nothing other than psychical attraction to one another!", they cry. First of all, this is false. Noah is not just attracted to Nayoen psychically/to her body. He is also attracted to her vibes and honest lifestyle and liberal thoughts about sex. That's why he's repeatedly bringing up how "down to earth" he thinks she is and has thought she was since first seeing her. Second of all, even if it was just psychical attraction....okay? is that a fucking crime? Nayeon met a dude she thought was attractive and wanted to bang. She then found out he had some trauma and wounds and was in a bad place and proceeded to feel sorry for him. She doesn't want to take advantage of him though and if he did not clearly pursue her and express his attraction towards he from that point further, nothing would exist between the two of them. Their relationship is respectful and relaxing, and gratifying for them both. Who cares if they aren't in love. They are simply doing what they want to do bro. Should one of them meet someone else who they truly fall in love with I guess they'll cross that bridge when they get there, but not everybody you have meaningful relationships with or care about will be someone you are "in true love with". Niggas need to grow tf up. *rme* As long as Nayeon does not cross into a place where she is fetishizing his trauma, or his sexual fluidity and desires (which in part stem from his trauma), or the state of emotional helplessness/dependency he is in as a result of his trauma, I think everything is fine with this ADULT, CONSENSUAL relationship. Now, if someone wanted to argue that Nayeon has already crossed said line I speak of or at least is beginning to cross it, I wouldn't hold them back because that can def be argued and could have been for some time now. Especially with the latest shit with her going through pretending to be his mother....
Stockholm syndrome
Lmfao, I hate myself for letting curiosity and honrniness get the better of me enough to even start reading this BS. Then I hate the “I can’t stop this piece of fiction until it’s complete” - ness in me that makes me read every update. Lol, whatever. So far I’d give this a 8.5 but..... we won’t know for sure until the end I guess.
Totally Captivated
I can barely contain my rage bro. I’m so upset and disappointed. So, this webtoon has 126 chapters and for the first ~80, I was in love with it. Truly the first half was so good to me. Not like a work of art or beauty or anything like that, but in the world of fanfic, DEFINITELY an instant fav! It was sooooo incredibly funny and the vibes in this BL for the first entire half were immaculate bro. It was crazy. I laughed so hard and so often. I smiled every chapter. I had fun. It took me out of the real world so thoroughly bro man the escapism was on 10. Like, I was so happy. Starting somewhere around chapter 80, things went so downhill and stayed there until the end. I know how this story is supposed to go, as it is one I read often. Around chapter 80 is that part of the story where the main trial of the couple comes around. In this particular genre it’s where the possessive top does their bottom dirty af. Then drama ensues and the top eventually has to make it up to the bottom, bottom forgives them, they work things and move forward towards their happy ending. The general idea with this genre seems to be the more dirty the top does the bottom, like truly the more horrible the things they do to the bottom are, the bigger the potential of the payoff when the top makes it up to the bottom. Making it up to them can look like actually doing a grand physical act/gesture or (even better) a permanent change in behavior towards the bottom. Ex: If the top does the bottom small level dirty and the top makes up to him in a medium way, you may get a payoff of 6. If the top does the bottom small level dirty, and the top makes it up to him in a big way, you might still only get a payoff of 6; in a big big way, you may get a payoff of 7-8. Now…. if the top does the bottom big big big dirty and then makes it up to them in a big big big big big big way, the payoff could be 20 bro. (Think “Painter of the Night”.) The problem with this though, is that many author’s girlboss too close to the sun and get burned: in an attempt to get a really big payoff, they make the top do the bottom more dirty than the top ends up making up for. Like the top does the bottom big big big big dirty and then only makes it up in a medium way. EWWWW. Like, hell no. And then what this looks like at its most extreme case, is when the top ends up doing the bottom so incredibly dirty, that readers do not think the top should take the bottom back no matter what (or unless very specific criteria are met). The problem with this webtoon is that it has done exactly this. The way that Mookyul did Ewon??? Problem #1: Look, this might sound crazy to many but to me the problem is not even that Mookyul was sleeping with his father this whole time. That’s really not what the problem was. Mookyul was a starving abused orphan picked up off the street by some predophile rich mafia don who groomed him and maintained a sexual relationship with him eve after he became an adult, in exchange for giving Mookyul everything he has ever had and anything he will ever want and making him a mafia don and his inheritor. Tbh, what in the hell was Mookyul supposed to do about that, you know? It’s obvi not right, but it is what it is. Wanna know what the problem actually is? That after Mookyul found himself falling in love with someone for the first time, he had the nerve to be wildy possessive of Ewon and let his toxic jealousy make him do all kinds of things to Ewon knowing good damn well he is fucking his father this entire time! Then, and here’s where it really gets bad, when Mookyul through a hella abusive way has finally broken down poor Ewon’s defenses and gotten Ewon to fall in love with him although he is terrified by the thought, he goes ahead and makes Ewon’s worst fears come true/ The exact reason why Ewon was so afraid to fall in love with him and has made these reasons clear over and over again? Yeah, Mookyul let’s them bitches come true. Ewon starts suspecting Mookyul of sleeping with his father and Mookyul doesn’t just lie in a regular way and say “no, that’s not happening”, instead he’s like “defuq? Ew, what are you saying you stupid as btich? Why the fuck would you think some shit like that? What the hell is wrong with you??? You’re literally insane”. Does this with the straightest of faces and multiple times even in the face of what Ewon believes (and the reader believes) to be the highest of proof saying otherwise. Professionally gaslights the baby bro. Then then then, as if things weren’t bad enough, when the proof gets to be too much and Ewon confronts him again, Mookyul’s like “alright, I have been fucking him this whole time, and so the fuck what?? What the hell are you gonna do about it?” Like ????????????????????????? Sorry sir, huh? Where do you get off being mad about this I’m so confuuuuuuuuuuuused. Like, omg I just- nah, huh? Poor Ewon in his despair tells Mookyul he is willing to look past all the bullshit and stay with him if Mookyul would just stop fucking his daddy. And Mookyul is like, “lmfao huh? Are you dumb? Lol, ayo what you thought I would leave my daddy for the likes of you? You must be out yo cotton pickin mind” and I’m like
Killing Stalking