i don’t know i read the side stories properly, please tell me the omega left his abusive ex for good and that they’re just coparenting. surely he’s not thinking of getting back together with him again? what did he mean by the fact he’s “patient” at the end of their side story?
honestly i very rarely like toxic romances and toxic MLs but have grown to love this story so much because of its realism. it’s not one of those trashy stories that tries to romanticise red flags and shoves rape in your face every other chapter. it shows you the dark side of the world as it is, no rose tinted glasses. yeah there’s some dubcon but out of like 78 chapters, the MC and ML have only had sex like 3 times while most of it is very plot heavy. considering the situation the MC is in, literally being millions in debt, i expected worse and a lot of noncon smut thrown in our faces. the whole character ensemble works really well with this kind of story and i like how they all feel like real people with real motivations and desires. the author doesn’t try to make the MC or ML a hero, they’re just people who have been shaped by the environments and experiences they’ve faced.
ugh it’s just the spoilers have absolutely ruined this for me. the one thing i wanted was this to not go down the cliche route of MC suffering at the hands of the ML but still forgiving him and ending up together with him. taeha’s not a good person, i accept that, but was i delusional to expect him to be at least a decent person to the MC? somewhere in the back of my mind i was thinking of the possibility that taeha would be responsible for the MC’s debt and that he would be trying to take his revenge out on the MC instead of his father but i really wanted to trust taeha when he said he had no interest in that thing. i wanted this to be a story where two messed up individuals who have suffered because of the same man (the MC having to deal with the debt his father left behind him and the ML having to deal with the trauma the MC’s father gave him) find some sort of peace together. was it too much for me to want the wikileaks to be taeha’s only desire and not revenge?
but no, taeha lied. he is indeed trying to take his revenge out on the MC, he’s the cause of his debt, he’s the reason the MC had to suffer in place of his father, he’s been manipulating and using the MC this whole time and he is the reason the MC will suffer even more in the future. in the future chapters the ML’s cousin rapes the MC and sends the video to the ML, for some reason the ML assumes this is consensual and then rapes the MC as punishment. then the MC gets shot and falls into water (i don’t know why but it’s apparently the MLs fault), the ML saves him but the MC is permanently damaged because of this. the ML is sorry (
I am in shock omg nooo please this spoiler got me like so annoyed and disappointed ☹
I also was hoping it will go the same way as you described but this spoiler ruined it for me somehow i just don't know really
just realise my comment cut off.
> the ML is sorry for all he’s done, they confess their feelings to each other, the ML confesses that he bought the MC’s debt a long time ago and let the MC suffer as revenge on his father but the MC forgives him after like 10 days and then they get married in germany, the MC becomes his secretary. like wtf is that??? just garbage, ruined a perfectly good story. was it too much to ask for a complex romance that doesn’t resort to lame tropes? these authors need to stop resorting to rape and making the MC a constant victim, their story can have angst without that garbage. i’m just incredibly disappointed like this changes the whole story for me
This really had such a great potential to be such an amazing story but not anymore with what happened offff what a disappointment truly
the ending sounds so rushed omg like you’ve spent this whole time drawing the plot out… just to end it that suddenly? 10 days then that’s the end of all those years of suffering???? either author got bored, lost interest, or started working on something they had more passion for
that’s so insanely disappointing wth… i loved how complex they both were and the plot was done so well but judging from those spoilers, i guess we were naive to expect a well-executed ending
i was literally hoping so hard that this story would break from cliches but no like i’m so annoyed that a perfectly good story has been ruined
it’s such a joke, i don’t get these authors’ obsession with making the mc suffer and suffer just to forgive the ml who just feels sorry. this is why i don’t like these “make him regret” plots, it’s not satisfying at all. it just makes me feel so sad for the mc
Did you read the novel? Can you provide the link please?
In case you haven’t already read this I’m jus gonna recommend it and go “Assorted wildness” is an amazing story with one of the best ukes ever you guys should check it out https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/madman_combo/
thanks for the recommendation, i’ll check it out
You really didn't wanna reply to my comment huh damn
lol it’s not that serious, i just didn’t see the notif. in my og post i said i just read spoilers, i haven’t read the novel nor do i have the link
Bruh
They fr put all their effort into making the MC suffer but never enough effort into making the ones who wronged the MC make things right, they make the MC forgive them so easily and it’s gets old so damn quick. Like STAND UPPP that man did unspeakable things to you
literallyyy. like i wouldn’t have been as mad at this ending if it was the ml who is shot and permanently damaged, at least who would have suffered in some way for what he did to the mc. i don’t like how in these “make him suffer” stories it is really only the mc suffering while we’re supposed to be satisfied with the ml feeling sorry and regretful
he’s literally the only one who’s been consistently sabotaging their relationship and refuses to be honest with the ML about anything, the ML has always been the one putting the work in with their relationship. i almost dropped this during those chapters when they were on “break”, the MC was saying nonsense like how the ML doesn’t care about him and that the ML has already forgotten about him. what???? like YOU were literally the one who refused to even breathe in his direction even after saying that you guys would still interact with each other, YOU were the one who initiated being on break, YOU were the one who made up nonsense in your head about how the ML supposedly isn’t into you and now he’s once again trying to cut off contact from the ML without speaking to him. it’s so shitty and lame, almost all of their relationship problems are caused by him overthinking to the point of delusion. i just scrolled past some of these pointless disputes between them, giving me a headache for no good reason. i need MC to be mature and initiate communication with the ML for once because this is getting ridiculous. being this horrifically insecure when you’re in a relationship is a red flag. yeah ML is at fault too for saying he hates omegas but i think anyone with half a brain could tell he just said that so the MC would stop being insecure about him wanting an omega, in this world it’s clear that male omegas are super rare so he probably didn’t even conceptualise the idea that MC could be an omega. but considering that he was willing to be with him even if they were both alphas, he’ll definitely accept MC being an omega so JUST TALK
THIS! OMG, T H I S ! ! !
couldn’t stand waiting for updates anymore and read the MTL of the novel and well… the ending was interesting to say the least, i wonder if the webtoon author will keep it the same
can u spoil?
spoiler
the ending is honestly pretty weird, once taekin’s issue is resolved and heechan leaves his body both minjae and heechan confess to each other when minjae comes back from canada. then after that there’s quite a few chapters as we see them progress in their relationship. at first, because of his past problems with his father abandoning his family, heechan tries to not fall in love with minjae before he gets hurt and minjae realises what he’s doing but he wants heechan by his side forever. on the last chapter, we get minjae’s pov for the first time and it turns out he’s been manipulating heechan into believing that he will get into accidents and receive “bad luck” if heechan is not by his side but he will also receive good luck when heechan is by his side. at first, heechan doesn’t believe it but minjae has these background issues with his distant relatives trying to murder him for his family’s inheritance (it’s never properly revealed, but it’s obvious minjae comes from like a chaebol family) and he takes advantage of those situations to make it seem like when heechan isn’t with him, he gets into accidents and when heechan is with him he is miraculously saved from dangerous situations. the lottery lady reveals they are truly destined to be together but at the same time it was really weird how minjae was manipulating heechan like that and sours how sweet and fluffy those chapters were
hi can u tell me where to read the novel? thank u
scribblehub
Can u tell which chapter of the novel is manwha's chapter 63?
chapter 18
and how many novel chapters are there in total?
38
damn so we have a long way to go
yup lol, taekin’s story isn’t that far from being finished tho. heechan and minjae’s romance doesn’t really properly take off until heechan is back in his own body for good
That makes sense honestly, since MLs in SAM's works tend to be toxic. Minjae may be the lesser of evils, but he still has the vibes
also i have a question do we know when minjae started liking heechan? was it even before like in hs?
If I remember correctly it was when heechan got into a fight with someone from school, minjae found him bold and funny, but they didn't interact because he soon left to Canada
ever since that scene where sunbae was trash talking with that delinquent at school, i’ve started to think there’s a lot about him that he’s hidden. he’s giving major yandere vibes… i think he’s also a delinquent, that scene where he pulled out a box cutter totally gave it away. that’s a classic delinquent weapon in korea. also he knew the other delinquent well enough to already know about as scar on his elbow that was hidden but he just glossed over it when seungha asked about it… he’s probably what they call an iljin — “the bullies that are also often delinquents within a school setting”. it doesn’t seem like it now but i feel like this season is about to get so messy
the downvotes ☠☠☠ welp we’ll see
long rant incoming
when i started reading this, i liked the first couple much more even though i always had mixed feelings about the way seok would kind of force his feelings on kiwoon. still, it was clear kiwoon wasn’t actually bothered by it and that seok had his boundaries so it wasn’t that much of a big deal for me. but ngl i ended up disliking both of them A LOT as we got through the second couple’s story. honestly, i feel very weird about how the author makes jaeha seem like this crazy bad guy in the first story just for it to be revealed in the second story that jaeha has been done incredibly dirty by the two people who he believed to be the only ones he could rely on during his middle school years. i like hyun but him not clearing up the fact that he knew jaeha didn’t kill kiwoon’s cat and basically letting their relationship go to shit is pretty fucked up. i understand he was jealous of their relationship but jaeha basically being abandoned by one of only two people he could trust was not worth it. but honestly the root of the issue was kiwoon, i don’t understand how he saw jaeha wrap a dead cat with his blazer and automatically assumed his own friend killed it. there is literally no logic or sense behind this thought and just shows how he had negative biases against jaeha just because he’s mentally ill. yes it sucked how jaeha would just trauma dump on kiwoon, and kiwoon has every right to protect his own mental health but there is something so evil about knowing your friend is in a horrible place mentally and that he is dealing with domestic violence just to decide to abandon him. the way seok speaks about jaeha and calls him an “evil psycho” completely ruined his character for me. because of personal reasons, i take mental health issues very seriously and seeing a character basically reduce a domestic abuse victim who is obviously suicidal into an “evil psycho” made me sick to my stomach. considering seok wasn’t even personally involved in the situation and is only chatting shit about jaeha because he is overly obsessed with kiwoon gave me a huge ick. i’m not into characters who don’t give a fuck about anyone except their significant other and that’s basically how seok ended up.
ngl my feelings towards seungha have been weird since the second couple’s story. he came across as a nice person at times but when jaeha dropped the bomb that was seungha’s crush on kiwoon, it suddenly became incredibly obvious that he was only helping out jaeha because he didn’t want jaeha to cause problems for kiwoon which just comes across as pretty callous. ever since then, i haven’t been able to look at him the same. it just became clear that no one except hyun has given a fuck about jaeha and even then, hyun fucked up big time by taking two years to clear things between kiwoon and jaeha. i know jaeha’s mental health issues and domestic abuse don’t excuse some of his actions but i feel like he hasn’t done anything crazy bad? everyone makes the fight he had with kiwoon in middle school sound like a big deal, but we’ve never been shown it from jaeha’s pov. tbh the whole fight just seems like an excuse from the author for kiwoon to be traumatised and closed off towards other people because the author has literally never portrayed jaeha as the type of person to start randomly attacking people, especially not his closest friend. from what i can understand it seems like kiwoon just assumed jaeha killed his cat just because he was holding it (kiwoon assuming the worst about his own friend is shitty of him) and this somehow escalated into a fight with jaeha (sorry but this literally makes no sense). considering hyun cleared up that jaeha never killed kiwoon’s cat, it just seems like that whole situation was comepletely kiwoon’s fault and that jaeha lost two friends over a situation where he was massively misunderstood. even when kiwoon is told the truth, he never apologised to jaeha about seriously misunderstanding him and it just comes across as kiwoon only giving a damn about how he’s hurt and nothing else
LITERALLY YOU WORDED THIS SO WELL….. i don’t care about anything or anyone in this manhwa apart from jaeha, the way the author treated his story and character literally broke my heart and all the other mains are objectively horrible people who actively abandoned and treated their friend like shit whilst knowing he was suffering SERIOUS domestic abuse…. he’s just a kid i wish instead of him ending up w hyun we got to see him find true unconditional love whether that be platonic or romantic the scene of him going back to his dad’s house and getting abused like that was horrible to digest, how could they downplay something so serious and terrifying, how can you let your friend/student etc come to school with bruises like that and a demeanor as withdrawn and terrified as jaeha’s is and just be okay with that??? he needs serious professional help but all he got was a toxic love interest to depend on mentally and financially my boy deserves sm better :(
It hurts me to know that you were so dissapointed in boys and I think it actually hurts you too, because you liked them during 1st season, so I thought I should respond to your rant...(it will be vey long..) I agree that after 2nd season there are many bitter feelings and that jaeha is trated really unfairly, but...
I will start from seungha as there is less to write about him, basically he has this mature vibe because he gives no sh!t about others, thanks to that he can see and solve evrything more rationally, be it seungha having some feelings towards kiwoon or not he treats jaeha with bare minimum human emphaty and maybe even gives more attention than he normally would to others.. from his perspective jaeha is just a stanger in complicated and pitiful situation who has heavy backstory with his friends, his attitude is expected and i think he actually helps jaeha more mainly because of hyun, i am not sure if after 2nd season he even includes jaeha as his friend but i believe it will improve if they hung out more, i am grateful that he become a bridge between the couple
As for kiwoon, i am not saying that what was done in backstory was any good, both of them were at fault and also victims, middle school is still early stages of emotional growth, we cant just blame them for beign unexperienced kids, though i was pissed at hyun, and jaeha taking all the blame was very horrible. I think kiwoon is on the weaker side when it comes to handling emotional problems and as a kid it's not strange that he wasnt copable of emracing jaeha's problem, he felt trashy in this situation and jaeha continued to rely on him while he 1) couldnt give him enough support 2) was exhausted,frustrated and didnt want to be involved any longer 3) was feeling guilty after all jaeha was his friend but he started to see jaeha as a "problem". As a way to protect himself from mentall exhaustion (i strongly believe he was falling into depression too) kiwoon ignored jaeha eventhough it didnt improve situation, but he really belevied it was for the best for both of them. When he just assumed that jaeha killed his cat grieve, anger, exhaustion and anxioness worked together, it was totaly an subconscious excuse to "cut of" his relationship with jaeha, he mentally couldn't stand this any longer
Its scary to take responsibility for others, not many people are strong enough to help emotional unstable people like jaeha so i dont think that kiwoon can be blamed for not being such admirable person and not having emotional copacity to handle jaeha even as a high scholler. of course during their last conversation apologse for misunderstanding wouldnt be unappoprate! still i think him being harsh on jaeha in order to cut of their relationship was a good decision, isnt it just logical to cut of a person if you feel depressed and sick with them? he couldnt help him and keep falling deeper and deeper. its cruel toward jaeha but he depended too much on kiwoon, they couldnt move forward together so it was necessary for them to move separetaly, of course jaeha was in disadvantage here, without anyone to support him, but even in real live situation can a person afford to think about another if they want to esccape hurtful enviroment?
Its true that it resulted in abondoning jaeha, wchich is really sad, they did wrong towards their friend, but could they any better? kiwoon started to become depressed and when hyun tried to help jaeha he made abuse worse
they did the best they could but they ended up hurting each other and doind sh!tty things (only hyun could have done better, but he didnt, he better makes jaeha happy or else i dont know what i will do to him) the situation itself is very frusturating but as long as we are just human beings it will be like that forever
So as i said before kids cant really be the one responsible for what happend, we should questions more the adults in this history, like jaeha parents seriously they are the whole seed of the problem, but what about teachers? why they did nothing?
kiwoon and jaeha relationship is not resolved at all, it was buried as deeply as deep goes the wound in their hearts, kiwoon cares a lot thats way it hurts him too but as they were at the end of 1st season they werent ready to real talk. I believe boys cant just "ignore" jaeha while being friends with hyun, maybe during university or maybe later but jaeha will be included in their friends gathering, when he will become emotionally independed and kiwoon will be ready to face his past, then i wish they will talk and come to mutual understanding and restore their friendship
in no way i'm saying that jaeha home abuse was a small matter, it was BIG, but i tried to show it more from kiwoon side, really i love jaeha and wish him the best, but kiwoon too was hurt and we cant just say it wasnt so serius so it doesnt matter
it just hurts very very much when you want the best for characters and nothing goes well, but I hope you wont be too harsh on them while judging, at least kiwoon, because druging middle school hyun's only excuse is him being a kid (i like him as he is now, but still ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ)
oh, but i was totally pissed at seok too, his words were totally unnecessary, like he is not even involved so he cant talk in this way just because he doesnt like jaeha :(
the sad part is not that jaeha was abondoned in middle school but that he didnt receive any help until he appeared again in front of them in high school, this was unfairly done by author, jaeha was just swept under the rug
As much as I love all the characters....I have to agree completely :(
you guys make the discussion interesting that i wanna join but dang, that was long ass paragraph. i will read later hahhaha
you get it.omg I love people who have a way with words!!! thank you so much for saying this
honestly i didn’t even take into consideration the fact that jaeha just went from an abusive household to then being financially dependent on his boyfriend, which is still another unstable situation as they could break up at any point and jaeha would be put in another difficult situation. i liked the second season but it feels like the author didn’t know how to approach serious topics such as domestic violence and mental health issues in a manner that was careful. especially considering how the second season was finished with a HUGE amount of issues still present within jaeha and hyun’s relationship
i totally understand your points about seungha, he has no responsibility he owes jaeha, it just was a shame to find out what i believed to be him being genuinely concerned about jaeha just turned out to be born out of his crush on kiwoon. seungha has been shown to be someone who mainly acts based on reason and logic, he would not involve himself in a situation as complex as jaeha’s if it wasn’t for kiwoon. i thought it was for hyun at first but the reveal about his crush on kiwoon suddenly opened my eyes since it didn’t make sense before how he was actively helping jaeha and hyun while still coming across like he was trying to keep himself detached to the situation.
i don’t blame kiwoon for trying to protect his mental health since jaeha’s situation was intense for any middle schooler to deal with but i still can’t look at him the same considering he couldn’t even apologise to jaeha for misunderstanding him to an extreme extent. “isnt it just logical to cut of a person if you feel depressed and sick with them”, no i’d say that’s pretty fucked up to just drop someone one day when you’re dealing with someone with mental health issues who clearly has a fear of abandonment. i think he at least owed jaeha a goodbye and honest conversation. i’m not blaming any of them for not choosing the mature sensible thing to do since they were just middle schoolers, but only hyun rectified his mistakes (hyun fucked up the most but i forgive him because he went out of his way to save jaeha from his household and likely saved his life). kiwoon still gets to stay in his safe protective bubble while jaeha is never truly vindicated or at least apologised to. at the same time, i absolutely hear and understand your points. kiwoon’s decisions were understandable considering his age, i just can’t help that my heart hurts for jaeha who has just constantly had to suffer. hyun and kiwoon had the freedom to escape the complexity and emotional burden of his circumstances, jaeha did not
but yeah honestly the main issue was that the author very clearly did not know how to carefully and holistically approach a situation as sensitive as jaeha’s
exactly! it’s absolutely terrifying to be financially dependant on someone else, let alone when you just escaped a heavily abusive household, and completely agree with you about seungha also, it made me so mad to realise that he never cared at all about jaeha… what happened to basic human empathy? he basically acted like he was taking out kiwoon’s trash(harsh way of putting it but ) no one genuinely truly cared about jaeha despite him living through literal burning hell, they ALL approached him with superficial, fake and ulterior intentions. those kids are so selfish :/ that and the author wrote a character without doing any research at all, jaeha could’ve been amazing but instead the author ended up romanticising abusive friendships and relationships and victim blamed through out the whole story….. it makes me so mad rip
i feel like this story low-key brushed past the fact that tong yang’s brother is very much controlling and verbally abusive towards him. he purposefully isolated tong yang, faked his cat’s death in order to crush his spirits so that he can listen to him, acts like he knows best for tong yang, had someone pretend to be friends with him and keep tabs on him, hits tong yang when he doesn’t listen to what he says, tried to break his friendships behind his back, controls what he can and cannot do, guilt trips him into thinking everything is tong yang’s fault, constantly tells tong yang that he’s the only one who cares about him. i’m still not over the fact he really pretended the cat had died so he could manipulate him into abandoning his friendships and going overseas
I don't think it's brushed off yet. Let's wait until Xiao Zhen confronts him.
idk i feel like it’s just treated like a joke some times, i feel like the cat thing should’ve warranted a bigger response from the mc
I expected A-Zhen to talk him off tbh so let's wait and see
honestly i’m mad at myself for judging this by its title for months and putting it off because i assumed it was some cringy and cliche story, this is genuinely one of the best isekais i’ve read. both the FL and ML are complex, flawed but likeable characters, the ML might be the best ML i’ve ever seen in this kind of genre (i thought he was going to be your typical cold duke but he’s so much more than that, he’s sensitive, considerate, shy and hardworking), the slow burn was so masterfully and carefully done, the couple’s dynamic is so heartwarming, all the characters are so interesting, both of the main pairing’s backstories are heartbreaking, the angst gets so painful but the fluff can be so sweet. this was worth staying up all night reading, ugh but now i want more
THE WAY YOU READ MY THOUGHTS
real, i get disappointed with myself when i judge the title/art saying that its not my taste, WHEN IT HAS A JAW DROPPING GOOD PLOT, and will binge read it cuz its just too good to stop reading
onyx cannot be serious rn. i understand that he went through a traumatic experience with his father and ended up getting outed but that still no excuse for how he’s treating keane right now. he’s clearly gone and talked shit about keane to kai but that’s so unfair considering keane literally gave him a place to say after basically being disowned by his dad and was ready to support him after all he went through. in fact, onyx should be the one apologising to keane since he made keane feel like shit for not wanting to have sex with him when they last saw each other, which comes across as so manipulative to me.
i get that onyx may have wanted space and some time alone from everyone after what he went through, but it’s been 4 months since he last saw keane and now he should be ready to have a mature and honest conversation with him. instead he’s just lying and avoiding keane as if he’s the only one hurting and not taking into consideration keane’s feelings at all. i don’t understand how you can treat someone you’ve been best friends with for over 10 years like this. i’m gonna be really annoyed if this season is just keane chasing after onyx while he runs for him because keane honestly deserves better. not liking the direction this story is going in at all
You're so real for that. Honestly I'm reading only to see how it will end...
same tbh （/TДT)/
whether or not i’ll be able to enjoy this depends how bad the seme treated the uke in their first life, if he really abused him and raped him causing him to commit suicide then not gonna lie i’m out. i don’t care if he’s nice in the second life because it’s pretty gross that he makes the uke suffer so much then gets to redo everything now that he’s sorry when there’s simply no good reason for doing any of that. i won’t mind it if he was just rude, argumentative and didn’t appreciate the uke enough since it was an arranged marriage but i’m not accepting abuse, that’s too far for me