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oh my gush I'm gonna cry lmfao

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Teens can be toxics lol, be young its not a excuse to me, but well

lmaoo he is still toxic tho…theres a difference between maturity, age, and toxicity

Yeah ofc, but i wouldnt write off their current behavior as just being toxic for each other. like one comment said they should have 10 years of therapy before getting together,, um what?? Cause they're teens rn, their world is confined to their home lives.. Cirrus feels guilty that the kiss was obv tough on Skylar but he doesn't even consider that he could have trauma, it's just about *him* ("kinda offended i made u gag") and how that kiss was helpful to *his* goals. The same with Skylar, like I'm sure his crush wouldn't appreciate the hundreds of stalker photos he's taken of him.. but we know his motivations aren't bad so we're sympathetic to him instead. Their age makes this behavior understandable, they don't know better yet. If that makes sense

um i agree with the other comment they do need therapy before getting together? Cirrus does not feel guilty at all given that backhanded apology, and Skylar seems to be depressed and has an obsessive personality. So what if they are teens? They still need therapy

Never said they don't need therapy, just the idea that they need to fully work through their issues before they're even capable of a relationship is insulting. Idk if Skylar has depression or a personality disorder or ptsd but that shit doesn't just go away w/ therapy, all it does is become manageable. They could do therapy and date at the same time if anything, but there will *never* be a point where they'd enter a relationship and its all fluff. All relationships come w/ fights (espc when ur younger) cause ur two people trying to fit together, and if both of u have trauma then thats extra hard. Idk, i just hate this all or nothing attitude that a lot of comments seem to have.

Ooh, I think I understand your point, solving a mental problem takes a long time, it can even last a lifetime, so from my point of view the problem in this case would be that (for example) Cirus did not even have the intention of fixing his inner shit and ended up dragging Skylar with him, a couple is supposed to contribute to your life instead of subtracting you. That's what you mean?

Yeah ^^ I think it def makes sense to say Cirrus could be a bad bf because like u said he just wants to act out rn, he might not have it in him to be considerate of Skylar. Tho also, relationships can be the exact healing/support/learning that someone needs. If they end up liking each other, then thats enough and theyd figure out the rest

That's a hell of a shit excuse!

Skylar never liked him in the first place, what relationship? And although people with clinical issues can have relationships, this is not it.

╮(￣▽￣)╭ It’s a shounen ai and theyre on the cover.. I think we’re all assuming it’ll become a relationship. You don’t have to agree with me. People are shitty sometimes, they can still date.

Yeah, we all know how it works. But "just teens" is the most oversused excuse for bullies

Kinda not gonna keep repeating myself.. its not an excuse, Cirrus is a bully rn and would have to actually apologize/make amends if he cares to later. It’s just understandable and doesnt make him a *toxic person*. Espc considering his young age, literally characterized by impulsive, selfish decisions.

A toxic person is anyone whose behavior adds negativity and upset to your life. Many times, people who are toxic are dealing with their own stresses and traumas. To do this, they act in ways that don’t present them in the best light and usually upset others along the way.

Toxicity in people isn’t considered a mental disorder. But there could be underlying mental problems that cause someone to act in toxic ways, including a personality disorder.

Here are some warning signs to watch out for if you think you’re dealing with a toxic person:

You feel like you’re being manipulated into something you don’t want to do.
You’re constantly confused by the person’s behavior.
You feel like you deserve an apology that never comes.
You always have to defend yourself to this person.
You never feel fully comfortable around them.
You continually feel bad about yourself in their presence.


source: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/signs-toxic-person

You wont change my mind on this. I disagree with calling people toxic at all, it's a stupid term thatll eventually fade out of use. It's good to identify "toxic" behaviors and protect yourself like Skylar is trying to do. But the way people use toxic is to say "here is a bad, irredeemable person. They are just built like this and your best option is to avoid them". Everything they do becomes "toxic". Cirrus is following Skylar around cause he's confused what he did wrong and wants to know but this is somehow harassment. His apology is insincere cause he doesn't get what's so hard about a kiss (a pretty common belief, espc from one teenage boy to another), yet this is proof to commenters that he's psychopathic. He *deserves* to be punched while Skylar *deserves* someone nice, like his crush. It's such a childish way of looking at things.

Well, I am not trying to change your mind, i'm merely stating facts. Toxicity is not irredeemable in itself and it refers to the effect you have in another being. Is a fact that to Skylar Cirrus is a toxic existence. But what he lacks the most are fundamentals in common sense, in about everything he does. His inner dialogues, his actions, his double standards. It goes beyond anything coherent. I have an adult daughter, a teenage son, I myself was a kid once, pretty wild at that so the "to be young" is nothing but an excuse tbh. Is not definitive, but right now he is a toxic existence to someone. He does not reflect in that at all. I don't think anyone deserves anything bad happened to them, not Cirrus, not anyone, but every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And if "toxic" is being overused, maybe it's because we used to thing little about it before.

Well for me calling someone toxic isnt calling them irredeemable. At some point I would hope that Cirrus will stop having toxic behavior. If every teen went through this “phase” then it wouldn’t be considered toxic. To me Cirrus us toxic bc he doesnt see a problem with pushing around Skylar. He adds to skylar’s stress, making him relive his trauma and blackmailing him.






( https://www.purewow.com/wellness/traits-of-toxic-people)

( https://www.minimalismmadesimple.com/home/toxic-person/)

Bro you good? I’ve never seen any Yahwi fan say that, a lot of us actually explain his character and the story unlike you guys who think the only valid point is one or two things he’s done very wrong and most of you don’t even back it up like there’s no point in debating or arguing if y’all can’t give us proper statements and reasons

It exists, cause the author draws Cain with a shady face a few times so people comment "he has hidden motives, just wait" as a way to say that "yeah he might be a better bf now, but he could be worse than yawhi". Which is ridiculous. Also... no ones interested in debating/arguing with you, pls chill tf out. You're hard defending Yawhi in the comments as if hes a real person. So what if people have different limits from you?? Those "one or two things hes done very wrong" can be all it takes to make a character irredeemable to some people, and thats *fine*. The manga isnt just about him.

YASSSS GO BESTIEEEE

And what if he does have motifs? Clearly there are a few motifs he has and one of them is to get with Jooin, am I wrong?

“No ones interested in debating/arguing with you”
Cool, so why are you replying to me with your opinions or whatever, that’s called arguing/debating girl-

“You’re hard defending Yahwi as if he’s a real person” I mean…not really, he’s just a character that I like, you’re telling me you’ve NEVER defended a character you like from a book, manhwa/manga or whatever you read..?
Plus I don’t even go all out when defending a fictional character, to shorten my point, I was talking about how not all of us Yahwi fans biased and some of us do give good reasons why we like him, but some of you Cain stans can’t even give any good points, someone being “cute” and “sweeter then Yahwi” isn’t really valid considering the author can change their personalities. And there’s also the thing with the “rape” scene which y’all are so obsessed with, like damn, y’all are the ones acting like Yahwi is real and deserves jail

“So what if people have different limits from you” I have no idea what you mean, I’m assuming you’re talking about when I said that he hasn’t done many things wrong, and I agree with that again, most of y’all are being way too biased as I’ve stated..

“The manga isn’t just about him” who said it was, but he IS one of the main characters, is he not? So why can’t I defend him? The manga isn’t just about Cain or Jooin too. As you can see from the raws, the manga is focusing on Yahwi and his past etc sooo you’re wrong and right…

So you got anything else to say or are we done here because as you said, “no one wants to debate/argue with you”

Plsss

Wtfff not you being triggered just because i said that?? Istg all yahwi stans are snowflakes

Wait what, who said I was triggered? FYI when someone says “plsss” or adds the “” emoji it means they’re laughing. You really thought you did something huh

Nahhh im tired fighting with a kid.. just go support your favourite rapist bitch

Lmaoo it seems like the kid here is you…You’re the one cussing at me “bitch” and acting pressed for no reason. It’s not like I personally offended you, I’m just a regular person on the internet sharing my thoughts, no need to get mad because I’m backing up a fictional character you hate

Thought i was done ranting but lol. Like I think "happy extrovert helps struggling introvert, brings them into their world" stories are nice and trauma/abuse stories are god tier but.. together?? Have to actually put in effort to do the subject matter justice or its just insulting. If Hiyomori's issues were that he's like gloomy so no one befriends him then this shallow story is perfectly fine. But instead he's a victim of csa and forced prostitution and what.. a two-week friendship saves him? I loved how Hiyomori instantly clung to Hazama because its the first kindness he's ever received. I really hoped tho that the manga would show how naive Hazama is, he's just a teen with no power and *no* understanding of Hiyomori's situation. It doesn't even have to be a long story or that deep to be meaningful, like "Cut" is a similar length and also too quickly resolved but wow it had way more substance and the main characters weren't this childish.

All these comments about "why did the author let pimp go away/he shouldve gone to jail too"?? It's unrealistic enough that he let hiyomori go to school, gave him a schedule of one fuck a week, and let him go at the end?? Like that's entirely focusing on the wrong thing, just wanting this fairy tale end that solves every loose thread.

Wow, so many dislikes on your comment when you're only speaking the truth lol. I agree with you on how unrealistic the story was, Hiyomori's situation is dark and heavy subject matter and it was handled pretty lightly and solved by just kind, positive, extrovert teenager lol.

The plot has so much potential if the author did not make it too short. I like this kind of story to delve on to Hiyomori's feelings, thoughts, and situation more deeply. this story would've been better if it was longer and taken more seriously.

So yeah, i got tired of trying to express my thoughts articulately lol but yeah, in short I agree with all of what you've said 100%

Seriously!! I wanted to be nicer abt the manga cause it obviously connected with a lot of readers but it just pissed me off too much（/TДT)/

Yeah, I can see that with your long rant, you really popped off LMAO but I still enjoyed reading it I like realistic POVs and constructive criticism, but I guess not all people will agree with us ╮(￣▽￣")╭

late to this comment but fr! These goddamn fujoshis are literally creepy asf with how much they will defend rape, and toxic and abusive relationships, and just all around bad and poorly written characters my god

Doesnt matter who the person is, a safeword/safe action system should always be established especially if theres shit like catheters and restraining involved. Its not about realism it’s about well.... being safe lol

@ dislikes, u do remember the multiple times the manager said "if u dont do this, ill fire you" right? So please tell me how you can expect a safeword lol. This isnt that type of manga

Big titty demon lords dont exist lol, thats my point. It IS abt realism, bc if ur gonna complain abt them not being safe then why not also talk abt how they should use condoms or get std tests or arrest the manager for SA (or the servants for stalking) or literally so many things. This is just fake porn, it is OKAY.. you all love complaining too much

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God forbid we allow our porn to be unrealistic XD
Kids, rape is bad, condoms are good, and if I ever stumble upon a big-titty demon lord, I'll be sure to ask for consent and give him a safe word. Happy? No? Then gtfo :3