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todoyongie June 2, 2021 6:27 am

i hope it ends as yulia doesnt choose anyone. tbh i dont think she has a relationship that well to fell in love with the prince,, meiger is more logical since they have more moments and all but im sure yulia only sees him as a friend so i hope it ends with yulia not choosing anyone but ig this is a romance manga so she will choose the prince :/

todoyongie May 6, 2021 10:18 pm

i literally hate aqua,,, he is 2-3 times older than those kids. and still thinks about this?? gross. the series is interesting tho

    bel3ns1ta.a May 8, 2021 2:43 am

    thinks about what? if you are thalking about that idol mom secret, yea aqua please just get over it and be the super cool actor we know you wanna be

    Gravenshi May 8, 2021 3:01 am
    thinks about what? if you are thalking about that idol mom secret, yea aqua please just get over it and be the super cool actor we know you wanna be bel3ns1ta.a

    Not only she was her mom, but he was a HARDCORE fan of hers... So, it's not easy to get over it.

    todoyongie May 8, 2021 8:24 am
    thinks about what? if you are thalking about that idol mom secret, yea aqua please just get over it and be the super cool actor we know you wanna be bel3ns1ta.a

    yes,, and his relationship with 16 years old are not good either,, he was good at first when he rejected ai when she got into bath with him,, but now he just does what he wants,, almost like he forgot how old he was :/

    bel3ns1ta.a May 8, 2021 4:13 pm
    yes,, and his relationship with 16 years old are not good either,, he was good at first when he rejected ai when she got into bath with him,, but now he just does what he wants,, almost like he forgot how old h... todoyongie

    still, if you are in a body that looks 16, and has lived 16 years old and everyone treats you like you are 16 then you would kinda forget how it was to be 40 (i have no idea how old he was). also, me very gratefull that he is not a pervert^^

    Gravenshi May 8, 2021 4:39 pm
    still, if you are in a body that looks 16, and has lived 16 years old and everyone treats you like you are 16 then you would kinda forget how it was to be 40 (i have no idea how old he was). also, me very grate... bel3ns1ta.a

    This is not how development works.

    aㅤ May 9, 2021 1:35 am
    still, if you are in a body that looks 16, and has lived 16 years old and everyone treats you like you are 16 then you would kinda forget how it was to be 40 (i have no idea how old he was). also, me very grate... bel3ns1ta.a

    basically this. it's just how reincarnation works, memories and feelings of the previous life might linger but your body and mind will grow according to who and what age you've reincarnated as. I used to feel iffy about it too until I saw the anime ascendance of a bookworm, it really changed my perspective around it

    Gravenshi May 9, 2021 2:20 am
    basically this. it's just how reincarnation works, memories and feelings of the previous life might linger but your body and mind will grow according to who and what age you've reincarnated as. I used to feel i... aㅤ

    I doubt the adaptation is fully following the novel.

    Most of the time, Myne is pretty much simple-minded or straightforward as long as books are somehow involved. When she is serious, she doesn't behave like a kid and people find it quite "peculiar". Also, she is totally living the fantasy dream recently. She is confused about her new environnement and try to "blend". It's even hard to call her a proper adult, because she just wants books. BOOKS BOOKS BOOKS. So, I wouldn't take her as an ultimate reference. She was already weird before being isekaied. She just got weirder in her next life. Myne is an abnormal. That is why this series has a really "authenthic" approach of the isekai trope.

    aㅤ May 9, 2021 2:45 am
    I doubt the adaptation is fully following the novel. Most of the time, Myne is pretty much simple-minded or straightforward as long as books are somehow involved. When she is serious, she doesn't behave like a ... Gravenshi

    yeah I guess you're right myne isn't really the best reference but to me personally it still made me think of reincarnation in a different way which I appreciate, there was also the part that she and that boy (sorry it's been a while and I'm bad with names) started developing feelings for one another if I remember right? it didn't feel weird at all knowing she is 5 years old but used to be an adult

    Gravenshi May 9, 2021 3:40 am
    yeah I guess you're right myne isn't really the best reference but to me personally it still made me think of reincarnation in a different way which I appreciate, there was also the part that she and that boy (... aㅤ

    What do you mean by developping feelings? I believe you are talking about her "personal Escort Boy" xD ?

    If you were perhaps refering to romantic feelings, there are not such things between them from the already seen seasons. The boy treats Myne like a (fragile) little sister and Myne sees him as a precious (helpful) friend.

    aㅤ May 9, 2021 3:49 am
    What do you mean by developping feelings? I believe you are talking about her "personal Escort Boy" xD ?If you were perhaps refering to romantic feelings, there are not such things between them from the already... Gravenshi

    I just looked his name up it's lutz and I don't know I have this clear memory in my head of especially lutz developing feelings for her and them holding hands at a certain scene and they were blushing

    Gravenshi May 9, 2021 1:45 pm
    I just looked his name up it's lutz and I don't know I have this clear memory in my head of especially lutz developing feelings for her and them holding hands at a certain scene and they were blushing aㅤ

    Unfortunately, that is not love - you are just interpreting the scene this way; by this fallacious logic, we should assume, she had a thing for Otto, Beno and Ferdinand, which is not true. Myne never saw Lutz as a love interest. I doubt that Lutz sees Myne this way, but I don't deny the possibility. However, for Myne, she does not show this kind of feelings for anyone. Plus, the story is not a romance.

    Yes, she blushes... but even aged women can't stop from blushing over a heartwarming scene. Nothing odd, regardless the age. Myne is a simpleton, she does not have intricate feelings from an internal perspective.

    You can read the novel for confirmation if you want though.

    aㅤ May 9, 2021 3:44 pm
    Unfortunately, that is not love - you are just interpreting the scene this way; by this fallacious logic, we should assume, she had a thing for Otto, Beno and Ferdinand, which is not true. Myne never saw Lutz a... Gravenshi

    ahh it's all good I don't need confirmation, I probably just interpreted wrong then. either way it was a first for me that the thought of myne having a crush on lutz didn't feel weird because those kinda scenarios usually gross me out. maybe it depends on the character for me? I don't feel weird about aqua's situation either like if he started falling in love with kana I wouldn't be fazed much

    ~Deku~ owo May 10, 2021 6:39 am

    In my opinion, I feel Aqua is confusing his feelings for Ai as “romantic love”. His past life interferes with his current life. He’s a die hard fan turned into Ai’s son. I don’t think he understands his feelings because he never got over her death nor his past life’s death. I’m sure he mistook his feelings of “love” towards Ai, he is definitely confused on their relationship because his past life. I view him as loving Ai as a son, fan, and someone who really wanted to be their for her.

    As someone with mental illness (ptsd, depression, anxiety, I’m diagnosed btw), I can see that he’s not really sane because he never moved on. Confusing your feelings for someone is easy because if we don’t understand ourselves we can’t figure out how we feel. Watching someone you care about die is traumatic and it can cause someone to have a distorted view on certain things. For example, a person who was a victim of sexual abuse can view sexual abuse as “love” instead of healthy relationships and romantic/sexual parts of relationship.

    I think it’s insensitive of you to be hating him and thinking he needs to “get over it”. Do you understand how hard it is to cope with things like that? Losing someone you care about right in front of you? Having past regrets and memories will just worsen the way you think about life. Past traumas that never healed will be present in the new life. He never got closure on his death and was thrown into a new life with no reset, he does not get to have a fresh start because he already lived once. Therefore, he has a distorted view on living.

    Aqua really needs to get therapy. He has lots of issues that are weighing him down. I feel bad for him and if he was real I hope he will be okay. Many times people go through trauma and never get help.


    Although, many characters can be portrayed “badly”, I like to think about what the characters feels and how would it be being in their shoes. I want to give a character a chance before I judge anything (if the character is just a cliché it’s easy to tell if the character was written well or not, well written characters make me think about them as person instead of fiction, poorly written characters just makes me give a look and decide if they’re great or not (my opinion btw)).

    I think the author did a great job setting up the characters but I’d like to see more of Ruby since she’s not really there. Aqua in my opinion is a very well written character because he feels human than just a sentence and a drawing.

    Gravenshi May 10, 2021 10:11 am
    In my opinion, I feel Aqua is confusing his feelings for Ai as “romantic love”. His past life interferes with his current life. He’s a die hard fan turned into Ai’s son. I don’t think he understands h... ~Deku~ owo

    I agree with everything you said except for the romantic love - it lacks a backbone.

    I don't sense any confusion from this aspect, only a dichotomic conflict. As an hardcore fan, He was never portrayed as someone seeing Ai in a romantic light. She was his greatest idol and the strongest mom. That's stop there : Idol-Mother. He wanted to make her happy as a fan (his idol's happiness is his) and as a son (make her enjoy true family).

    You need decent plot evidences to sustain this affirmatin, not generalized behaviors (outside the box). Otherwise, it's just interpretation for the sake of interpretation.

    Furthermore, it's not surprise that some men tend to be attracted to women that somehow ressemble their parents. It is unconscious, "normal" and psychologically understandable.

    todoyongie May 10, 2021 9:42 pm
    In my opinion, I feel Aqua is confusing his feelings for Ai as “romantic love”. His past life interferes with his current life. He’s a die hard fan turned into Ai’s son. I don’t think he understands h... ~Deku~ owo

    of course,, i understand that he definitely should go to therapy but what i was talking about aqua loving 16 year olds,, not ai im pretty sure after being after him becoming her son he started liking her as a platonic BUT he probably had feelings for her before he died. so when ai was 16 and he was an adult. thats still gross,,

    ~Deku~ owo May 10, 2021 11:53 pm
    I agree with everything you said except for the romantic love - it lacks a backbone. I don't sense any confusion from this aspect, only a dichotomic conflict. As an hardcore fan, He was never portrayed as someo... Gravenshi

    I understand where you’re coming from but he described Ai as his love interest, her traits and such. As seen here. https://imgur.com/a/X9v0l9f That’s the first person he thought of. And when Akane acted like Ai, he got all flustered and saw his Mom not Akane. He asked what his relationship with Ai was because the dichotomy of his current and past life. He even went on saying “or perhaps...”, which I believe is his thinking of he might love Ai romantically but he stopped himself from thinking that way. https://imgur.com/a/cZ4BRHb
    Living obsessively over Ai will distort his view on their relationship with each other. Which I said before he confused his feelings of “love”. He feels love for his Mom and admiration from his past life as a die hard fan.

    His traumatic experiences from his past and current life affected him greatly during his development of a child and teenage years. Him wanting to know why Ai died in such a cruel way and what was reason the stalker knew about her kids (aka Aqua and Ruby). This obsession on Ai and the truth makes him see everything through a dirty glass.

    You saying “it’s not a surprise that some men tend to be attracted to women that somehow resemble their parents” is a theory. That theory you mentioned is called the imago theory that is heavily influenced by evolution theories and child development behaviors. Source: https://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/imago

    Because of Aqua’s obsession with Ai and his lack of a Mother and Father figure in his development as a child influenced him a lot. Just because his mental age as Gorou (previous name) doesn’t change the fact he became a child again. Children’s brains are different from adults. Kids need guidance. As he grew older his mental age is now lined up with his body. He has knowledge from his previous life but it doesn’t change that he’s now a teen.

    Teens typically search for their themselves different from their parents. Aqua had a past life so his personality was already set but as well changed. Relationships are so complex it’ll take a long time to understand our behaviors with others and in ourselves.

    Now, to explaining where and why he’s confused about his feelings. He’s been through lots in his life. Ai was his Mother and his favorite idol. The admiration you have as a fan and the love you have for your mother are beautiful things. Seeing Akane act like Ai made him realize what he feels may he different “love”, he’s confused and trying to figure out how he feels about Ai. He saw Ai as a woman you can admire then his Mother. Now him being a teen can distort his view on his feelings and relationship between him and Ai. His mind is influenced differently because his new body and his new life.

    You don’t have to agree on my opinion but this is what I have thought.

    ~Deku~ owo May 11, 2021 12:20 am
    of course,, i understand that he definitely should go to therapy but what i was talking about aqua loving 16 year olds,, not ai im pretty sure after being after him becoming her son he started liking her as a p... todoyongie

    Like what I said here, “Just because his mental age as Gorou (previous name) doesn’t change the fact he became a child again. Children’s brains are different from adults. Kids need guidance. As he grew older his mental age is now lined up with his body. He has knowledge from his previous life but it doesn’t change that he’s now a teen.”

    His body and mind don’t line up, but our body influences our thoughts. His environment was different because now he’s a minor again.

    As seen here, https://imgur.com/a/M212ZMr . He’s a teen not an adult. Sure, your morals may be different but he never got a reset or an erasing of his memories. He’s mentally mature but it doesn’t make him gross or pedophilic.

    Aqua is attracted to people his age or older because he’s now a teen once again. Aqua knows seeing people younger than him is kind of weird because his past life. His morals are intact but it’s not gross to like someone your age.

    An example of pedophilic behavior from an reincarnated person, is Rudeus Greyrat from Mushoku Tensei (an anime), he reincarnated and he lived his past life as a shut-in neet. In his new life, he showed very scummy behavior towards children. He was obvious on sexual intentions with the children characters despite his new life. That’s gross. Although I love Mushoku Tensei it doesn’t make up for Rudeus sexual behaviors. Even though he’s now a child he is not developing like Aqua did. Aqua didn’t show sexual intentions as a child, he just developed normally.

    In Aqua’s past life he just admired Ai and not had romantic feelings for Ai. Then, he was reborn as Ai’s child. He grew and she did too. His affections for his Mom and his admiration for Ai as an idol confuse him on his feelings and relationship between them.

    Now, onto Akane, Aqua doesn’t see Akane as a romantic interest, he sees her as someone he can use for his personal goals such as avenging Ai. Him now a teen doesn’t see this as preying on a child, he sees this as opportunity to gain the truth to his Father.


    Being a pedophile is preying on children. Pedos can be put into 2 categories. Opportunist pedophile and the pedophilic illness pedophile. Opportunist pedos are like sociopaths who take advantage of young children/teens because they see an opportunity to use them for sexual things. People with the pedophilic illness can’t stop their attraction towards children because their mental age is different. It’s disturbing but true. Opportunist pedos are the ones you typically hear about on the news. People with the pedophilic illness need serious therapy sadly, often times these pedos can’t get much help because societies view on pedos. I don’t sympathize with any pedophiles or pedophilic behavior, but it sucks that some adults have to be that way. Stuff on pedos you can read: https://www.britannica.com/topic/pedophilia

    Anyways that’s just my opinion.

    Gravenshi May 11, 2021 12:55 am
    I understand where you’re coming from but he described Ai as his love interest, her traits and such. As seen here. https://imgur.com/a/X9v0l9f That’s the first person he thought of. And when Akane acted lik... ~Deku~ owo

    Interresting. I see where you are coming from now.

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