Mintylove

i mean, i totally agree that mc deserves a fucking break already and i just want him to be happy; but i also really don't want him to end up with the emperor at this point. (even though i know that thats probably whats gonna happen)
i get that the emperor changed and all, but there are some things that you just should never forgive imo, rape being one of them

The "new" emperor didn't rape him? Le am I missing something?

U r right. He didn't rape him.

Idk why ppl can't accept that he has got this other incarnation so that he gets a second chance. He is different. Why even connect what he does in this life to his past life? Even rape is not a crime that denies u chance to another life as well as to change urself.

I'm not saying that the emperor doesn't ever deserve to be happy in anny life ever again; even though I'm not gonna pretend to like him even if he HAS 'only' drugged mc, locked him up against his will and totally would have raped him while mc was drugged if mc hadn't SLIT HIS WRIST to stop him, and has been generally a 'better' person. What I am saying is, for mc, there IS no clear line between the two lives, since from what we know, he has always remembered his past life. to him, this reincarnation of the emperor is the same person, thats why i treated him the same. I realize that that wasn't entirely fair to him, but i would still prefer it if mc didn't end up with the emperor after everything that has happened, in this life and the one before. that being said, i obviously know that they ARE going to end up together.

also; i can't comment on whether rape denies you the chance to be reincarnated or not seeing as i don't believe in reincarnation, but i agree that it doesn't mean that it is 100% impossible for a rapist to change, however unlikely that realistically is. but what it DOES deny you of is having any place in your (intended, in the case of attempted sexual assault) victim's life.

sorry, i know this is just fiction, and i really don't mean any offense

that's my bad, you are right, in this life he was only about to have sex with a drugged mc and only stopped when mc slit his wrist. which, to be fair isn't all that much better imo, but i did kind of view the past emperor and this reincarnation as one person, which is my mistake

Ik. But u know rape isn't even a crime that gives u death sentence. Even I don't believe in reincarnation but since we r reading it, u should understand the depth of it. It is another chance to life miss. Or it is hell living with just ur past. The uke here seems to be like u sticking to the past and that is exactly why his reincarnation life is hell.
And u r wrong miss. There IS a clear line between two lives. The emperor's resolve to never harm the uke when he died is what changed him. U can see the second him a different him. Why connect this new person to his previous incarnation and judge him for what he was? Don't u see he has conquered himself when he denied having sex with the uke under that aphrodisiac?

U should read the chapter again and see when he finally gave up. Maybe u r just too after rape and can't realise what happened.

uhmmm. dude. did you fucking read that chapter? because.
emperor: [undresses drugged mc] 'I can't hold back any longer.'
mc: 'no, not again' (thoughts: 'No, I can't let such a thing happen again. Not again.')
-flashback to past life that i'm going to skip bc is doesn't matter rn-
(still mc's thoughts: 'I'd rather you kill me.')
[mc punches/slaps? emperor to get out from under him, lunges for the broken jar and slits his wrist]

i really don't want to seem rude, but the emperor at NO point indicated ANY intention to stop before mc literally. slit. his. wrist. how is that 'conquered himself'??

again, i do also think that the emperor in this life is NOT the same person as he was before. he definitely has changed for the better. but he is still not a good person imo, and i get that we disagree on that part but, i mean, some things are just kind of facts? regardless, as with any work of fiction interpretation differs from reader to reader, so, sorry if i come across as insulting or condescending

(for example: a trashcan is better than a giant waste deposit. i still wouldn't want to live in either, but that doesn't mean it isn't progress in the right direction if you manage to reduce a whole waste deposit down to a few trash cans, it's just still, uknow, trash)

also, just sayin', but you realize that in most western countries NOTHING gives you a death sentence lmao? like, i know that some states still have it, but i thought that were only a few? not sure either way, i'm not from america

Did u read the chapter? Do u have the brain cells to comprehend it? Later on when the uke was practically begging for it the seme stopped. Even with after the wrist cutting incident, he could've had him but he didn't. Either its ur memory that's rotten or ur brain cells refuse.

And for ur sake I am from the eastern side. So u see I got no relation with western stuff. Idk how old u r or how much experienced. But guilt is heavier than regret miss. What u aim from punishment is just the regret that prisoners should've for doing the crime that forced them into prison. But what is infinitely more painful is to have guilt for doing something. That is what pulls u out of crime itself. And the author here has successfully portrayed that through the emperor.

sorry for assuming you were western/american, you just mentioned death sentences and i guess since america is the only english speaking country that still has death penalty it was the first to come to mind, but that was my mistake. also, odds are that i'm probably older than you, not that i quite get why age matters when it comes to personal beliefs and opinions on punishment systems? at least i think that is what you were talking about, sorry if i misunderstood. i agree that regret that you got caught is much less of a deterrent than sincere guilt over what you have done, and yes, the emperor seemed to feel genuinely guilty after he remembered his past life, it's just that to me, feeling guilty you did smth doesn't mean that all your wrongs will be forgiven.

first of, there's really no reason to be rude? I apologize if i made you feel attacked with any of my former comments.
Secondly i'd just like to pint out that, yes. mc WAS literally begging for the emperor to fuck him. AFTER the emperor DRUGGED HIM WITH AN APHRODISIAC. and, may i again point out, after mc slit tried to kill himself to avoid this exact situation. Do you want me to be proud of the emperor for not raping someone who just tried to kill himself to get away from you? i now realize that this might just be cultural differences, but where i live having sex with someone who is not able to give consent(ie drugged, drunk, passed out etc) is still rape. even if they don't say no, and even if they say yes in that moment. Consent needs to be clear, ongoing, coherent and voluntary. the important bit for us in this case is coherent, which means, well basically just what i said. They need to be in a state of mind capable of giving consent(not just for sex stuff but also if you need to sign smth, contracts can be voided if you drug the person beforehand for example) which means, not drugged, not drunk.

Miss I am in no mood to repeat what I wrote. And about ur age issue I clearly wrote experience in the next line too. U might be an old hag but that isn't a certificate for being knowledgeable. But ur experiences do that. U talk like u never feel or walk with the manga. Its another life dude, another chance. Its ppl like u who stop even those who wanna come outta their crime. Forgiveness is a weight miss. U talk like a child who only knows an eye for an eye. What he should get should be according to what he does in this life. He already lost uke's trust for what he did in his previous life. To love someone and never get it, always being the reason they cry. If that emperor was unfeeling he wouldn't have pledged to be reborn just for cherishing the uke. Every coin has two sides. Feeling guilty means many things miss. When someone has wronged u, what u look for is that one sign the guy is sorry. Guilt makes all the difference ma'am. It changes a human. Fools go an eye for an eye. Wise go for ripping the soul. Guilt does that.

jfc, okay, so nevermind the fact that you actually kind of sound like the who is lacking expierence in their life, at least when it comes to being on the receiving end of bad shit, you are right, having to constantly repeat oneself is tiring af, so i'm just gonna stop here, seeing as we're clearly not gonna see eye-to-eye on this one. Hope you have a nice day either way ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

Lol now I know the word "experience" just doesn't suit some ppl. It's my research ma'am. My own work on psychology. And my research subject was me. U don't even know what bad shit is until it messes ur brain. And u clearly refuse to reason anything just cause u r loosing without arguments. Tiring is just an excuse. Have a nice day miss. May u grow up someday. (〜￣△￣)〜