This story doesn't deserve just one star under any circumstances. People criticize ML, but they forget that he is human. Yes, human. ML experiences a rational and emotional conflict, the woman he loves is also the woman who represents all the hatred, injustice and sadness in his life. See, at the same time that living with FL provides happiness, a light in all the darkness that surrounds ML, her existence is the reason for this darkness (nobility woman/‘daughter of his ‘owner’) Therefore, ML's attitude is TOTALLY understandable. Thus, ML's attitude is TOTALLY comprehensive. I mean, understanding, because, as the only 'ray of light' in ML's life, he finds himself unable to leave her, but the hatred, suffering and TRAUMA he suffered does not allow him to be able to love her. Although understandable, I don't want the classic happy ending, as I believe that due to ML's previous life experience and, OF COURSE, the fact that he killed FL's family, as well as not having been psychologically able to 'forgive her' and , consequently, having tortured FL in the marriage, after the revolution, the ending I wanted was for each one to assume a role in this new scenario SEPARATELY. And I say this because ML is the symbol of the revolution, so his marriage after the fall of the dynasty is simply illogical, impossible, wrong. Having said that, in my opinion, FL did not deserve the suffering that ML caused her after the revolution, because, despite her previous ignorance, which may or may not be forgivable, since being an extremely privileged woman in an society archaic, aristocratic and sexist (she believed that a son would save his marriage) her ignorance is understandable, but, I do not deny the fact that she could have overcome this ignorance equally because of being a privileged person, the fact is that she recognized that her ignorance contributed to the suffering of the commoners and repented. Therefore, I wish that in its reflection ML had not only recognized the consequences of its ignorance and that it was sorry for that, but also adopted a more active role in society, but, unfortunately, I do not believe that this stance is consistent with ML , since one of the reasons for his ignorance was his lack of interest in politics (which is not wrong, no one is forced to like politics). So, considering ML's personality, I wanted her to go away to franche and do charity. Maybe some people find my ending to FL inappropriate, but I don't think it's fair that children pay for their parents mistakes, and I also think it's understandable that a person at the top of the social pyramid doesn't know the 'evils' of the world and, I emphasize that despite all the privilege that FL had, she never used it to oppress anyone and, finally, she married someone of humble origins (ML was not born noble, he was a subordinate of her father, which also demonstrates that the Her father had a lot of control over FL's life and, consequently, her view of the world). In short, I think this story is very good, because, in my opinion, the characters are complex, and we are also able to sensitize with them.
her existence is NOT the reason for his darkness. she was an innocent person on the sidelines, who knew nothing. he just had so much hatred that he had to direct it on someone—annette.
her existence is NOT the reason for his darkness. she was an innocent person on the sidelines, who knew nothing. he just had so much hatred that he had to direct it on someone—annette. gasha26
Her existence is the reason for suffering, hatred and trauma, as she is not only noble, but royalty. See, the ML was a sub-human due to the political regime of history, if it were not a monarchy, the father of the FL would not be able to do what he did in a legitimate, legal way with the commoners, including the ML here. (‘The only daughter of the military leader who oppressed the army and the citizens’) This fact is confirmed at the moment that the nobility that escaped wanted to rescue the FL to put an end to the revolution and return the old regime, as well as the FL itself stating that it was a method of the ML asserting its noble position and getting closer to her father and of the nobility. So I repeat, the existence of the FL is the representation of all the suffering of the ML, at the same time that its existence is the representation of the nobility and its privileges. However, as the ML's only source of happiness is the FL, a conflict occurs since it represents both good memories and good feelings (love) and bad memories(oppression, injustice, mistreatment, torture, abandonment, among other feelings typical of an aristocratic society). Now, is ML's stance towards FL desirable, ideal, correct? NO, but it is an understandable stance. I feel sorry for FL, because she is the typical privileged person who lives in an ivory tower away from all reality, protected and controlled by her father, so that his death puts her in a miserable situation. She becomes a pawn in a political game, in which she has no idea... the revolutionaries want to crucify her, while the nobles want to use her as a justification for a counterattack, but she herself just wants a happy and loving marriage, as well as a peaceful life (nothing wrong with this desire, which however simple, is worthy of any human being), however, her husband is not capable of loving her, despite having loving feelings for her, what starts all the psychological torture…
Being abused doesn't justify being an abusive, unredeemable monster who treats an innocent woman as sub human. The fact that you wrote that much to defend him -- check your priorities. Norn
I didn't say that his stance was correct, but comprehensive. In my view, the correct thing would be for him to seek help from the psychiatrist and not torture her in the marriage
I didn't say that his stance was correct, but comprehensive.In my view, the correct thing would be for him to seek help from the psychiatrist and not torture her in the marriage Lyh
Her existence is the reason for suffering, hatred and trauma, as she is not only noble, but royalty.See, the ML was a sub-human due to the political regime of history, if it were not a monarchy, the father of t... Lyh
i’ve read the novel, so you don’t need to explain the plot. you aren’t even arguing the same point anymore. you said her existence is the reason but then switched to representation. those are two different points. representation of his hardships, yes, absolutely, i would agree. which goes back to my original reply. reasoning for his hardship? NO. she was not the one torturing him or treating him like a dog. it’s a misdirected attempt to vent. maybe indirectly, but her sheer existence is not the reason.
"Her existence is the reason for ml darkness" Your making it sound like people can choose whose pussi to be born out of .Fl is not a God who can just choose which person to be born out of . And second ignorance is not a SIN. You justifing Ml action being fl being ignorant is dumb
Would you have the same opinion if you are labelled as a criminal just becus ur parents were a criminal? ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
"Her existence is the reason for ml darkness" Your making it sound like people can choose whose pussi to be born out of .Fl is not a God who can just choose which person to be born out of . And second ignoranc... Motto
This story doesn't deserve just one star under any circumstances.
People criticize ML, but they forget that he is human. Yes, human.
ML experiences a rational and emotional conflict, the woman he loves is also the woman who represents all the hatred, injustice and sadness in his life.
See, at the same time that living with FL provides happiness, a light in all the darkness that surrounds ML, her existence is the reason for this darkness (nobility woman/‘daughter of his ‘owner’)
Therefore, ML's attitude is TOTALLY understandable.
Thus, ML's attitude is TOTALLY comprehensive.
I mean, understanding, because, as the only 'ray of light' in ML's life, he finds himself unable to leave her, but the hatred, suffering and TRAUMA he suffered does not allow him to be able to love her.
Although understandable, I don't want the classic happy ending, as I believe that due to ML's previous life experience and, OF COURSE, the fact that he killed FL's family, as well as not having been psychologically able to 'forgive her' and , consequently, having tortured FL in the marriage, after the revolution, the ending I wanted was for each one to assume a role in this new scenario SEPARATELY.
And I say this because ML is the symbol of the revolution, so his marriage after the fall of the dynasty is simply illogical, impossible, wrong.
Having said that, in my opinion, FL did not deserve the suffering that ML caused her after the revolution, because, despite her previous ignorance, which may or may not be forgivable, since being an extremely privileged woman in an society archaic, aristocratic and sexist (she believed that a son would save his marriage) her ignorance is understandable, but, I do not deny the fact that she could have overcome this ignorance equally because of being a privileged person, the fact is that she recognized that her ignorance contributed to the suffering of the commoners and repented.
Therefore, I wish that in its reflection ML had not only recognized the consequences of its ignorance and that it was sorry for that, but also adopted a more active role in society, but, unfortunately, I do not believe that this stance is consistent with ML , since one of the reasons for his ignorance was his lack of interest in politics (which is not wrong, no one is forced to like politics). So, considering ML's personality, I wanted her to go away to franche and do charity.
Maybe some people find my ending to FL inappropriate, but I don't think it's fair that children pay for their parents mistakes, and I also think it's understandable that a person at the top of the social pyramid doesn't know the 'evils' of the world and, I emphasize that despite all the privilege that FL had, she never used it to oppress anyone and, finally, she married someone of humble origins (ML was not born noble, he was a subordinate of her father, which also demonstrates that the Her father had a lot of control over FL's life and, consequently, her view of the world).
In short, I think this story is very good, because, in my opinion, the characters are complex, and we are also able to sensitize with them.
ML can go to hell
Seriously. I’m sick of stupid people like this defending him. Fuck him.
her existence is NOT the reason for his darkness. she was an innocent person on the sidelines, who knew nothing. he just had so much hatred that he had to direct it on someone—annette.
Being abused doesn't justify being an abusive, unredeemable monster who treats an innocent woman as sub human.
The fact that you wrote that much to defend him -- check your priorities.
Her existence is the reason for suffering, hatred and trauma, as she is not only noble, but royalty.
See, the ML was a sub-human due to the political regime of history, if it were not a monarchy, the father of the FL would not be able to do what he did in a legitimate, legal way with the commoners, including the ML here. (‘The only daughter of the military leader who oppressed the army and the citizens’)
This fact is confirmed at the moment that the nobility that escaped wanted to rescue the FL to put an end to the revolution and return the old regime, as well as the FL itself stating that it was a method of the ML asserting its noble position and getting closer to her father and of the nobility.
So I repeat, the existence of the FL is the representation of all the suffering of the ML, at the same time that its existence is the representation of the nobility and its privileges.
However, as the ML's only source of happiness is the FL, a conflict occurs since it represents both good memories and good feelings (love) and bad memories(oppression, injustice, mistreatment, torture, abandonment, among other feelings typical of an aristocratic society).
Now, is ML's stance towards FL desirable, ideal, correct? NO, but it is an understandable stance.
I feel sorry for FL, because she is the typical privileged person who lives in an ivory tower away from all reality, protected and controlled by her father, so that his death puts her in a miserable situation.
She becomes a pawn in a political game, in which she has no idea... the revolutionaries want to crucify her, while the nobles want to use her as a justification for a counterattack, but she herself just wants a happy and loving marriage, as well as a peaceful life (nothing wrong with this desire, which however simple, is worthy of any human being), however, her husband is not capable of loving her, despite having loving feelings for her, what starts all the psychological torture…
I didn't say that his stance was correct, but comprehensive.
In my view, the correct thing would be for him to seek help from the psychiatrist and not torture her in the marriage
either a divorce or a painless death
i’ve read the novel, so you don’t need to explain the plot. you aren’t even arguing the same point anymore. you said her existence is the reason but then switched to representation. those are two different points. representation of his hardships, yes, absolutely, i would agree. which goes back to my original reply. reasoning for his hardship? NO. she was not the one torturing him or treating him like a dog. it’s a misdirected attempt to vent. maybe indirectly, but her sheer existence is not the reason.
"Her existence is the reason for ml darkness" Your making it sound like people can choose whose pussi to be born out of .Fl is not a God who can just choose which person to be born out of . And second ignorance is not a SIN. You justifing Ml action being fl being ignorant is dumb
Would you have the same opinion if you are labelled as a criminal just becus ur parents were a criminal? ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
Your past doesn't excuse your action.
exactly
Their excuse for ml action is that he is "human" By that same logic isn't fl father also human?then his action must be also understandable to them