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The artist is known as ST (스트). Spoiler!!!! You can find their twitter here and there’s this SUPER CUTE art of Aimu (Sarang) and Tachibana. SPOILER, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED:

https://twitter.com/kjyj1213/status/1168893838439718912?s=20

OMG THAT BROUGHT TEARS INTO MY EYES
FUCK I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY NOW
YASH I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE REST

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I didn't realise, that there was gonna be romance between them

The reason men are more trusted(though should not be all the time) is because women are pretty much always calculating and very cunning. We’re monsters, not all of us, but most of us. And those who can be trusted still have it in them to be bad to those who they deem their enemy

You must not have met a lot of women then. Women are humans, just like men. It’s not built into our DNA to be evil, you know, unless you think so based on your few instances of meeting women.

I’m a woman and have only woman friends. I don’t think women are evil but we are very calculating.

Also in those times women could be defined as evil depending on how they act

Over 90% of rape and murder is committed by men but you have the audacity to call women monsters

Yeah but we’re talking about a world where women aren’t equal and rape blame is put on women. So by evil I mean calculating in order to get above everyone else

Also for a long long time women didn’t support other women. They stepped on each other in order to gain the most power they could. They were evil to each other cause they didn’t have the power to step on men. Ya get now what I mean when I say evil

The majority of child abuse occurs at the hands of women. Also, I'd love to see where you got that statistic.

Last I checked, we weren't discussing child abuse tho, deflection will not fly. Tbf, 54% of physical abuse and neglect are at the hands of mothers, so you're right to an extent. In terms of rape and murder, Google is your friend...

It's as relevant to the topic as you pointing out your statistic in response to someone saying women tend to be conniving. I guess you trying to frame all men within the same set as tge RAPISTS and MURDERERS within tgat statistic simehow argues against women being manipulative and conniving and somehow my statistic is less valid.. As far as rape statistics, women actually have shelters where those statistics are recorded, I'm sure if men had the same there'd be a lot more cases of REPORTED rapes.

ENOUGH! BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ARE EVIL

Stop, just because the majority of rapists as murderers are male sexed doesn't mean all men are guilty of the two, MOST people are overwhelmingly good- you're the one who interpreted it that way, not me.

As for those shelters we women have: they initially started out in the basements and spare bedrooms of other women, once domestic abuse became publicly acknowledged (thanks feminists), women were already petitioning local/state/federal government for assistance. Do you think they just magically appeared out of thin air?

Marital rape was still legal in the US in the 70s, men should absolutely have the same resources women do but y'all have to get off your lazy asses and FIGHT for them they way we did, or must we do EVERYTHING for y'all too?

I'm done here.

Yes, it's the male rape victim's fault that society doesn't view it as an important enough issue to just put some up... please, DO be done because you're ignorance itself.

Hey, sorry about this. That youraedthiswrogn guy got mad at me on a separate topic and he's stalking my topics to vent. I'd say it's best to ignore him, a lot of things fly right over his head--doesn't think analogies are legitimate, thinks rape must be unenjoyable to qualify as rape, also demands translation teams update once a week. Almost zero reasoning skills, so don't waste your time on him, okie? You shouldn't have to waste your breath on someone like that.

Neither are, just specific cases like Tori over here arguing that male rape victims should have to come forward about being raped to have shelters made... the instant anyone mentions a female rape victim coming forward it's all "you don't understand how hard it is for them to come forward"...

Literally, show a single other topic of yours that I've commented on.

This conversation and that are two seperate things, i didn't even message you...

Right, you find a dead topic I started from 28/11/2019 (2 months back), on a manga that hasn't been recently updated nor have you been following it---but you aren't stalking.

Looking through people's stuff is normal, but since we argued and you're a child still fixated on it I'm "stalking you"... i was just looking to see what kind of topics you make... then i saw Tori being a bigot and responded to THEM, NOT YOU.

Did you not just "stalk" me to find out that I'm "not following the manga"?

Ah, so it comes out, didn't it? You were. You're getting it wrong, kiddo. It's fine to visit people's profiles, I'm sure you already know I did that because you rang a bell for me. But why deny it in the first place? You went to look at Poseidon's profile and then cried about how their account is just mine in disguise, it was pretty obvious why you were on my profile. I have some decency to explain to Tori why some bigot randomly shows up in their notifications, you know?

Except you're acting like you and what happened has anything to do with THIS. I messaged Tori to talk to them about what they said, nothing to do with you. I guess you're the OP though, want a cookie? You're also acting like my going through your topics was malicious, i briefly looked through and ONLY posted on this because of Tori...

Babe, where did I say it was malicious? I told Tori you came from my profile. Not wrong, is it? Or are you going to deny it again and say it doesn't involve me at all? You know why you were on my profile. You were trying hard to prove that Poseidon was my account, and you're blatantly ignoring that now even though I've brought it up. I think you were the one who made it an issue since I was messaging Tori only as well, right? ;)

I only checked Poseidon's for that reason, i was just looking at what kinds of topics you make. I checked yours after all that, albeit shortly after. Idc if you believe me and you're presenting this like it's an argument of some kind.

Babeh, I left a farewell message for you on the other topic. Cognitive flexibility! Just remember that! From one internet stranger to another, it's the best advice I've heard and you'll hear too to get you through life. It'll make you less petty, hypocritical and more open-minded. Ciao!

Got it and if they're comment stalking, report! Sorry you're having to deal with that.

reading this made my day. The friendship between Seunghee and Inbeom is precious for exactly those reasons; Seunghee gets to finally act his own age around someone and have fun while doing it, too. I love Suhyeok, but because he is somewhat mature himself, their relationship tends to be more serious than playful which is why I'm glad Inbeom exists and brings out that side of Seunghee.

I couldn't have explained this any
better! They form an amazing trio. Also the author brings out so many subtle emotional dispute one can have in their daily lives. This is why I'm still reading this manhwa. The characters are well developped and it is nice to see them grow in their situations.

I couldnt have explained this any
better! They form an amazing trio. Also the author brings out so many subtle emotional dispute one can have in their daily lives. This is why I'm still reading this manhwa. The characters are well developped and it is nice to see them grow in their situations.

... idk sis maybe that’s just how the author wants to conclude inbeom’s arc by showing someone is actually there for him... i don’t think it is the author’s intention to purposely make seunghee neglectful in this particular chapter, it’s just to highlight his friendship with inbeom... i can see where you come from bcs we barely got seunghee x suhyeok interaction the past few chapters but we’re going to get more for the next ones so there’s that.

i’m not saying let’s not blame seunghee or anything but the author wrote it as such anyway, without any clear implication or intending to highlight that seunghee is a bad bf. the author is obviously not making this an issue, and it’s just how it works between both of them... they love each other but not every panel that features them both together has to portray that, i guess? maybe you’re reading too much into it? and since they’ve agreed to be honest with each other, i’m sure suhyeok would’ve mentioned his dissatisfaction over seunghee continuing to hang out with inbeom? but from now on until (spoilers) the end of the story he made no mention of having a problem with the two’s friendship, almost like he doesn’t even care abt it except maybe a few instances when he’d become pissed over inbeom teasing him with seunghee... though maybe if you still have a problem with that then you can criticize the author’s writing i guess. after all no one is perfect in their craft

i do agree that suhyeok’s getting backlash for doing nothing but being himself is too much and wrong for this fandom though. he’s a lovely character and he’s the babiest baby of them all tbh.

also food for thought: seunghee’s the one who confronted inbeom to stop stealing his clothes anymore, and suhyeok isn’t one to let himself be bullied anyway, since he can put up a fight against inbeom if he wants too (back when they fought for the remote and inbeom lost) but he’s prob too lazy to confront the guy every time bcs of how frequent his clothes keep disappearing... but idk... just putting my feedback out there

okay, i get what you mean, but just because the author seems to not be making it an issue doesn't mean that it's not an issue? in that case then a lot of crappy stuff that people do in these mangas can be overlooked, no? there's that one manga where the MC was locked in the house because his boyfriend had insecurity issues, that was made to be romantic and a show of pure love when he finally released him. would you say that because the author is not making it an issue, it's not an issue? or all the rape that goes on that's romanticized, would you say too that becaues the author seems to be equating it to love, we shouldn't point out any problems with that? (not that seunghee committed a sin but just to show that your logic is pretty easily overturned)

he did mention his dissatisfaction, it was just made to sound like petty cute jealousy. and the thing is that many people here have complained about suhyeok being shady and slutty when the author has never explicitly portrayed him as that, just that he's introverted and has several gfs, yet i don't see this argument being used that people are reading too much into suhyeok when he's just quiet.

"maybe that’s just how the author wants to conclude inbeom’s arc by showing someone is actually there for him"

okay, i get this, but if you read my topic carefully, i said that it's a small thing to add. do you think it's hard to add a few scenes of seunghee staying for a while and confiding in suhyeok? like i've posted, please go through that hypothetical scenario again. would you not find it disrespectful? if you don't, i feel that you're doing a top-down argument (deciding that you like seunghee and want to defend seunghee and then cherrypicking evidence to do so, instead of looking at the evidence that making your decision)

look, i love seunghee as much as you do. but characters are flawed for a reason, and just because i like characters, doesn't mean i won't point it out and brush it under the carpet. inbeom's my favourite character but never would i say that "ohh yeah he bullied seungtaek but he's turned over a new leaf, so let's just forget about that". i'm not saying that you are trying to defend seunghee without any thought whatsoever because you've put up some arguments, but i'd be concerned if people really didn't find anything remotely weird about seunghee's behaviour as a boyfriend.

and i also think you might be wrongly interpreting how i feel about what seunghee does. i'm not telling him to go formally apologize to his boyfriend or that seunghee is trash. i'm saying that it bugs me because readers here, maybe even you, tore apart suhyeok for the smallest things yet turn a blind eye to such transgressions when it comes to seunghee. it's this hypocrisy that bothers me.

" they love each other but not every panel that features them both together has to portray that"

i agree with you, but yeah i'd just like to make it clear that i've never asked for them to always be lovey dovey. this is what i complained about: "I’m bothered that nobody here brings up that Seunghee can be a bit insensitive of Suhyeok’s needs yet bags on Suhyeok for the littlest things. :("

i'd be concerned if anyone really doesn't think that what Seunghee did was a bit insensitive. and like I've stressed, I've never said that Seunghee is satan or he needs to be kissing Suhyeok's feet for me to be pleased. i'm just mentioning that he was and has been rather insensitive towards Suhyeok, not that I doubt that he loves Suhyeok. and it's annoying because people tear suhyeok apart for the smallest things. even you acknowledge that. case in point is your reply, people are quick to defend seunghee but would gladly rag on Suhyeok. and i'm not saying you specifically do that, i'm saying that because this is seunghee, we have instances of people defending him and few that readily call him shady or trashy.

"though maybe if you still have a problem with that then you can criticize the author’s writing i guess. after all no one is perfect in their craft"

i hope you don't take any criticism i have that you don't agree with or don't understand as equal to insulting the author. no author is perfect, but i've never suggested that this author be perfect. this is my favourite series, ya know? :)

"i can see where you come from bcs we barely got seunghee x suhyeok interaction the past few chapters but we’re going to get more for the next ones so there’s that."

again, this is not my point... i like their interactions but i'm not asking for more. but i've already explained it a lot of times in both this reply and the previous reply so i won't unnecessarily repeat it. maybe you can read my clarifications and get a clearer view of what i was saying and then reply? cuz there's nothing i can really go off on in your reply when it's in response to things you didn't raise and ofc i'm interested to know what you think!

TL;DR you misread/exaggerated many of my points, i cannot reply properly because i didn't raise those points that you are refuting. e.g. you seem to think i want more seunghee/suhyeok moments, but i never mentioned it or suggested it. (now that i think abt it, could you explain why finding seunghee to be insensitive means i want seunghee/suhyeok moments?)

i'd appreciate if you could read my clarifications and reread the original post before replying, i'm still interested in what you think!

yeah, that kind of thinking makes me think that you are the kind of person who can be very sensitive to the simplest of things. I'm not sure what kind of relationship you want in life but I will very anxious if my other half thinks like you. The reason I like their relationship very much is that it isn't that obsessive as what most common comics like to enforce to its readers. Their worlds do not strictly revolve around each other and I certainly think that it is a healthy kind of relationship.

i agree

sis look i’m not trying to attack you, i’m just posting what i think abt the situation you’ve decided to make a meta on... and it seems like you exaggerated a lot of what i’ve said too... like girl i’m not here to defend seunghee, i thought i’d share that maybe the author is not focusing on seunghee x suhyeok in the conclusion of this inbeom’s arc hence why they haven’t thought of adding a scene where seunghee decided to stay and confide with him... and maybe we just have different outlook in life so we can’t see eye to eye with this. bcs if you think that what seunghee did was crappy to begin with and the author is enabling him then who am i to stop you? i just personally thought it wasn’t actually planned deliberately by the author to make him seems neglectful towards suhyeok so if you think it is then sure? the author is at fault then for making a crappy mc to begin with who does nothing good from a - z even when he have a bf and the story is ending , if that what you think it is. just pls don’t think i’m here to refute your commentary and saying your opinion is invalid, i’m just adding my thoughts that may not be in line with yours. the readers have every right to criticize so if you think as such then go on. i just thought that maybe you’re reading too much into this but since you’re actually commenting on the author’s ignorance of issues like this then yay you go sis. i just didn’t see it that way bcs i don’t believe in having to devote my whole life for a lover and paying every second of my attention to him 24/7. i have my own life and social circles, and just bcs i didn’t stop longer than necessary for him then that doesn’t mean i love him less, and if your personal standing differ from mine then sure! we live differently! your opinion is valid as much as mine! if you feel that my ideals and the way i see this as stupid then carry on! who knows i might actually lack braincells to construe your commentary properly bcs i didn’t see that deep! i only read manhwas like this as a form of escapism so forgive me for not appreciating it in a deeper sense as most of yall. (no this is not sarcasm, i genuinely meant all this and not bcs i’m not taking you srsly)((ppl actually said i dont have a deep sense of appreciation over this author’s writing style before so maybe thats why im unable to see as deep as you))

i am offended with one thing though. i may have just made this account bcs i felt compelled to reply to you and couldn’t do it on anon but pls don’t lump me with the rest of ppl who hated on suhyeok before. you may not believe me but i’ve been on his side since the beginning and still put my hopes on him during his temporary fall out with seunghee. he’s my fav character and i would die for him, and if ppl ever suggest otherwise then they better shut their mouths :)

DUDE, YOU CALL ME SENSITIVE BUT THEN IN ANOTHER POST YOU GET OFFENDED BY ME TELLING PEOPLE TO NOT HATE ON OTHER COUPLES

Just say you're a petty kid and go, dude. You're pulling as much stuff as you can out of your ass because you have some weird worship of Seunghee (and your topics do show that), as if you're some idol fan who has to support oppa from all negativity. Have you actually ever been in a relationship? Because what you claim in this post seems like nothing you'd do when you get offended that people dare criticize your beloved oppa. Talking about healthy relationships when you're the type who sees in black and white and would probably rave at your partner for not being lovey dovey towards you 100% of the time

Since we're making up shit, let me do a more educated guess: you're a 7 year old fujoshi that projects herself onto the relatable "uke" and reads yaoi/shounen ai because gay relationships are sOOO SEXY sINCE thEY ArE wRooOng. That's why you get offended when people remotely criticize the "uke", because that's you in your weird gay-fetishizing fantasies. Weirdo.

hey hey, i'm not trying to hurt your feelings and neither did i feel attacked, it's weird to be upset over some online discussion, you know? i'm a curt person so i hope your feelings weren't hurt, i feel bad if they were. it's okay to refute my points, that's why you replied and that's why i'm interested. it's a discussion about manhwa so feel free to say your opinion and tell me why you disagree. it's just that you misconstrued some of my points so halfway i realized i just couldn't reply properly even though i was trying to engage you. and i type a lot because i'm excited since this is my favourite manhwa, so i can go overboard just typing whatever comes to mind with no filter, making it sound rude at times.

i know i come off as nitpicking. i agree, actually seunghee's behaviour doesn't bother me. i genuinely do not care about him walking off without caring about suhyeok (i mean, it is seunghee LOL) but i get why you mistook that i seemed upset he wasn't lovey dovey with suhyeok.

i'll explain why i brough it up. i'm pointing this out only because the readers are hypocritical and it annoys me. i've never cared or been angry about seunghee being hostile towards suhyeok or anyone because that is his character, it's a fault but i don't expect anyone in the story to be perfect, it's what makes the story interesting. just check my topics. i remember a few where i was cooing over seunghee being an angry birb. people like inbeom/seungtaek/kyubin/seunghee/suhyeok are flawed and i enjoy reading about them bcs the author does a good job in realistically portraying them.

i *only* bring up their flaws because the readers can be stupid and are often very biased in seeing some characters. that makes me annoyed, i can't lie about that. it's silly but it makes me annoyed that some characters aren't appreciated because people don't read or bother enough, so they end up just bagging on them so ridiculously.

e.g. they forgive inbeom for sexually harrassing seungtaek because he's nice now but they bag on seungtaek for hitting him unconscious, completely ignoring that he's a victim. they also hate kyutaek because they came in expecting that seunghee will be loved by kyutaek, which is so stupid since they carry their irrational hatred all the way up till now. how can authors experiment if readers are so against any structure unlike the usual SHOW ME EVERYTHING AT THE START? and it's more so annoying that they keep bagging on suhyeok for every little thing because of their bias to seunghee.

and worse, what people (like that nathaniel delulu) think that just because i point out the bias towards seunghee, it means that seunghee is a bad person/i hate seunghee. no, readers are the ones who have this bias, why would it be seunghee's fault? (and he's a fictional character?!)

i hope it's clearer now. one clear example is that i love inbeom, but i always went around telling people that he was a piece of shit to seungtaek. just because seungtaek didn't control his strength in self-defense and inbeom is pitiful, it negates nothing about what he did. seunghee is driven, independent, and i love how hypocritical he can get with being annoyed by his peers' "immaturity" but expressing that immaturity with inbeom (e.g. annoyed that friends drew on seungtaek's cast but doing the exact same). it's how he was shaped due to his experiences. it shows that he has a front that's crumbling with his first true friendship, with inbeom. deep down, seunghee who fancies older men desires to be like his peers, but because he fears rejection from peers, he puts them down instead.

also i don't think the author did it on purpose. i agree with you. she did it half because of fanservice and half because she's rushing to finish the series, since i follow the korean version and the korean fandom. it's not as cute if suhyeok doesn't get jealous from seunghee ignoring him, and how will sexy time arise if not from some hot "jealousy" premise, you know? ;)

so yeah, TL;DR I'm not bothered about Seunghee being insensitive, it's his character. Yeah he can do better and it'd be nice if he did, but it's a minor thing. I brought this up because readers are hypocritical and it annoys me.

Oh please don't put words into my mouth. I was not offended because you presumably said in a post that people should not hate on other couples. If you understood what I said, you'd understand that I was offended because you wanted to enforce the idea that it is not right to like on a couple more than the other which by the way you were quite insulting to begin with.
And you call me a petty kid when you are the one being petty and childish here. If you want proof of that, just read your post here again. As I clearly mentioned in my initial response to you, your post worries me because it feels you are being too sensitive over a trivial subject. And yes, I do like Seunghee's character but that's what you are supposed to do regarding a fiction. Why read something if you're not going to be invested in the character/s or the plot? I like to imagine that the world that I read is real so that I can become more involved with the story. I shouldn't be saying this considering the fact you are ultimately doing the same thing. I find it sad that you'd attack me with this idolization of a character when this is something integral in the world of fiction. I would have been fine if you instead talked to me more about the flaws in Seunghee's character rather than belittle me. See how mature you are there? Very mature. For the record, what I claimed in my initial response is truly something I would feel in reality. I will stand with what I said. There is nothing more worrisome for a partner who gets worried over small details like you do.
Finally, your conclusion is the most childish insult I've ever heard in my life. You literally made some things about me just to boost your superiority complex. I don't even know what fujoshi means which makes it more laughable. Since you don't know a thing about me, let me share some things about myself. Whether you believe it or not is up to you although I'm quite certain you wouldn't care because that might be the type of person you are. A sensitive and childish person who cannot handle other's people view. I admit that I tend to get very emotional when it comes to characters that I dearly love. But that's what makes reading fun and amazing. While I hold the flag for these characters, I don't know what you do except for the fact that you like to complain that people shouldn't be telling others what they think.

"A sensitive and childish person who cannot handle other's people view"

This is a really apt descripting of yourself. Is that why you got mad at me for somehow taking away your rights to rant that the other couple is worse, nathaniel? I really cannot imagine a person getting mad at someone for telling others not to be rude. Come on, just admire that you're petty already because SEUNGHEE IS GOD SEUNGHEE HAS NO FLAWS. Seunghee has flaws and that's what makes him a great character, dumbass. stop being a rude kid and let people enjoy what they want. and stop contradicting yourself too.