Simply, we're seeing Carcel's POV so some of us thought that Carcel is the only victim here. Remove that POV, we got his reputation of him being a womanizer and openly badmouthing his fiance. Whether he likes her before or not, he earned that reputation of being surrounded by women. With this, why would Ines interpret every Carcel's actions as a form of affection when she knows what he's been doing even before marriage.
The girl is trying to survive and she chose this man because he's the best option.
We all see it that she's giving it a thought how they will both mutually benefit in the situation. For her, she's not hurting him but giving him the enjoyment he would normally have and with this she will also benefit...
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Ines, got the three lifetimes worth of suffering in the current timeline. So, I'm not surprised that she prioritizes her survival over her blooming feelings for the man.
Unfortunately for Carcel though, it's in this timeline that he had to be clueless of all their past lives resulting him to do some stupid things because of his feelings for Ines.
He didn't even badmouth her. It was the lady. He was just listening. Ppl got reading problems. Ines chose him bc he was easy to use and she thought she know him as a womanizer which is what she wants but she's suppose to gradually find out he's not rly one.
Thank you for the point!
I be here in the comment section reading people starting to dislike Ines and the angst of this whole comic.
Ines lived 3 lives, currently living the 3rd one. In all those lifetimes, she suffered from men because of her feelings. She was affected physically, mentally and emotionally. So, I don't really understand why people think that she doesn't have to hurt Carcel. Why she has to trick or fool him but I just want to input that, Ines doesn't really know to what extent Carcel's emotion for her and she doesn't want to risk it. That's why she put herself first and calculated a plan where she think she will be happy. I mean, thinking back, her two lifetimes ended with her having to kill herself. For me, that's the greatest form of suffering cause you'd rather die than live. Additionally, Carcel's actions in the past doesn't really warrant her trust that he would never betray her. At this point, she's already so broken.
I feel like you and I just read three absolutely different chapters… please, do refer me to the lines where he badmouthed Ines.
Carcel's actions in the past were all rumors she just believe. The only rl thing she knows about him was that he helped Emiliano escape.
Was it? When there's smoke, there's fire. I mean, Carcel's a great guy, don't get me wrong. He has integrity and professionalism however I think he keeps his personal life a bit of a mess. I remember, I read in a chapter, don't remember which one but he mentioned that he was so frustrated with Ines that he ended up in bed with another girl. Didn't he continued to do that??
And I really don't understand how people blame Ines for Carcel's cheating. As if she forced him cheat on her and become a womanizer. Like bruh from the beginning she chose him bcs he was from a powerful family that the Empress cannot just have a war with because of something like rejection of her son. And she didn't even like Ines. Second, she was indifferent to Carcel considering he was a child in her eyes and she had a mental age of over 30. But your fiance whom you don't even like being indifferent towards you doesn't give you the licence to cheat. And let's not forget Carcel started cheating on her because he was frustrated that she wasn't fawning over him like all the other women. And as far as we know Ines was bedridden all that time. The fact that Carcel's reputation as a rake will help Ines in the future is the only reason she's fine with all that. Because we all know that in her first (second) life when she married the crown prince he gave her STD which caused her several miscarriages. So I doubt Carcel hasn't caught something already considering his past. So, let's not blame Ines for EVERYTHING.
why cant people read a story without projecting their fucking feeling on it.
i will explain it in a more simple way, and if you need go reread the story.
-in her "third" life ines choose carxel because of the rumors that she had heard, (usually runors are falls).
-Her plan from the start was to marry him cause he was queens nephew so she would still (the queen) use her family's name.
-carsel all these hears tried to approach ines, ines didnt care about him , she even told him to have other relationships , their relationship was more of an open relatioship to her carsel had no idea for her plan or that she was sick.
-yea sure she slept with some women but she didnt sleep around like the rumors make him to be.
next time try to understand the story without projecting as ines or whatever you did while reading it.
also the prince slept with whore so yea sure he had stds if we remember their time they living in .
The womanizing rumors in the past were fake. Ppl make shit up all the time. Just look at the banquet when Ines heard those two guys making up shit about Carcel and she hated it.
Ines was not bedridden the whole time. Go reread. She was only bedridden in 16-20. She been brainwashing him since always. Go reread, she even said it was her plan for 17 years to make sure he cheats. She was mad when he said he'll be loyal. Ines knows Carcel didn't catch anything and that's why she chose him. It's obvious it's Ines fault that he cheated bc if you look at all the past life he didn't do shit when she didn't do anything to him. It's only this lifetime that he's doing all this bc of her.
His personal life is not a mess. None of the women he ever slept with ever show up in the novel. You know whose personal life is a mess? Ines. The prince always try to kill the guys she loves and the painter even try to see her again when he shouldn't.
Maybe it's you who should reread bcs as far as I remember they were supposed to be married at 17 but Carcel went into Navy. And started cheating on her even before that. I agree with you that Iness was 'annoyed' when Carcel said he'll be loyal after marriage which would not help her plans for future. But I DO KNOW THIS VERY WELL you cannot FORCE someone to cheat on you. She never even spoke more than a few words with him how does that make him cheat on her? Let's be real Carcel can be very oblivious but he's not an idiot. It was Ines's plan to make her look undesirable, a black sheep whom ofc a man like Carcel wouldn't find desirable and will divorce her on his own. REREAD IT. In her plan Carcel is supposed to divorce her for her gloomy personality. But when Carcel suddenly changed towards Ines after literally cheating on her for YEARS that Ines had to change HER plan to make a child with Carcel and divorce him for his infidelity. I'm not saying she's blame free but Carcel isn't a saint either. If anything he knew what he was doing all those year cheating in his finance yet he still continued it. I'm sure that part was very clear in his monologue. And most importantly Ines did not have feelings Carcel which is why his infidelity did not affect her rather she used it to her advantage. Girl just wants to live a good life and even wants to leave Carcel to live a life of his choice. She isn't harming him in anyway. It is us who are judges of their actions.
Honey why do poeple even read if not to feel for the characters? The fuck is wrong with you? Do you hear yourself? I NEVER said Ines cared about his infidelity. We DO. Carcel cheated and Ines did not react which made Carcel even more frustrated bcs in his delulu kind he though that Ines loved him all along.
And rumours? She literally caught him all tangled with a random woman in the hallway. Lol now that's one true rumour.
And I remember specifically mentioning that she married Carcel to protect herself from not being married to the Crown Prince once again. And since Carcel comes from a powerful family of equal standing it was a good match in her eyes. But the fact that you expect her to be lovey dovey with Carcel, she, a mentally grown woman in six year old childs body is kinda disturbing. It makes more sense that she would ignore him since he was a CHILD in her eyes. Even in their teenage years she did not need to pay attention to him since she did not like him and I believe she made that thing very clear that she did not like him romantically. What the problem is that Carcel's infidelity was never her fault but it sure did become one of her weapons and she's right to take advantage of it to protect herself.
then based on your words how is it cheating when there was no relationship between them? and it was only their word that in the future we are gonna get married. So basically he was free to do whatever he wants and all good till he marries.
lol when did i say i wan expecting her to be lovey dovey?
from the rumours in her past life that she heard.also he himself said that rumours went around that he slept around but he didnt care much about it.
also when you read a story to try to understand both side i have seen people write about stuff that are not even in the manga .
Once again I'm saying this Ines does not care about his infidelity. We do. Also you should really think of what you're saying. They were publicly ENGAGED. Carcel's infidelity also puts Ines in a awkward position. She does not acknowledge doesn't mean it does not exist. Cheating is cheating eveb if you get no action from your spouse. Carcel could've broken the engagement off but did he? Ines wouldn't't and we all know why
But from Carcel's POV he knew what he was doing was WRONG. He was AWARE of his actions when forst slept with a woman out of 'frustration', when he left for Navy knowing very well he was supposed get married that year, when he came back and demanded to be married after 6 years of no show. HE WAS AWARE. So, what I'm saying is, not only from our POV but also from Carcel's POV he KNOWS he fucked up.
Gosh are you dumb or what? Did I ever say I'm disregarding Carcel's side. Ines isn't blameless but Carcel isn't innocent either.
no i am not dump i am trying to understand what you are saying as english is not my first language :)...
why do you have the need to insult my intelligence though ?
Okay I'm sorry. But if you think dumb is an insult, you're gonna have a hard time with more.
yea i dont think so i am just expecting people to reply in the way i do without using "dumb or retarted" words to prove their point . ╮(￣▽￣)╭ when someone uses these words automatically in my head they become immature even if they are right.
I totally agree with you
You think she don't spoke more than few words to him cuz you don't see everything that happen before. Her plan was not for Carcel to divorce her cuz of the gloomy personality. Ines been having the plan to divorce since 10. Go reread. She was plotting to make him cheat since then. You a fking idiot if you think she just recently want a child cuz Carcel change. That had always been her plan. Did you not read wat she told the butler. She had always planned that for 17 yrs.
Ines knew he didnt catch anything and that's wyh she chose him. YOu talk like she don't know the past life and just chose some random guy. She been choosing him since 6 after breaking down all the other dukes' sons. She don't like any of the other guys and carcel the only one who is a pretty good person and also a playboy from rumors. You're just defending her cuz the manhwa cut all the things out.
https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/posts/7038672/
At a time when he was frightened of her for a long time, Inés had spent a few years sending extreme love letters and gifts to the point where he was terrified. She made him overwhelmed by the pressure so he would run away and spread their distance on his own. (She lovebombed him.)
In those days, Cárcel did not run away as easily as she thought, but it was clear that there had been some progress. Eventually later on, she was afraid of getting married, and she made him go circles when he was in the military academy and the navy. (He did tried to get close to her and she made him run in circles.)
https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/posts/6411456/
Besides, although he was a famous playboy. He didn’t have STD like someone else, had many women around him but never did prostitution, and had sex within normal sense... she couldn’t believe the potential she need was in that kid.
He couldn't have broken the engagement. The empress and their parents were behind it. How many times I got to say it. Ines got the empress to back their engagement and her father always does what she wants.
You must've missed the words where she lovebombed him.
Ch2:
"There were numerous opportunities for her to undo it all, but she threw them away."
So who got more power in this engaegment?
Ch5:
"... so she only ever expressed her affection thru letters. But her devotion to me has long been known throughout society."
She's been tricking him that she likes him but turn him down when he was trying to get close.
Let's go Hyejin... SPOILER..
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>> Let's give a little teaser of what Yoonsung has gone through.
Please, I don't hate her. I know the feeling of being of invested to someone cos you believe in them only to break that trust. I know how much Hakyung means to her just like Yoonsung but no one explained to her the truth of how come Hakyung was gone.
Btw, if you're here for my spoiler please know that I used google translate when I read this on Ridi. I might have misunderstood her role too. Sorry ><
Hey mate can you spoil me .. please I want to know more what's gonna happen
One thing: Chaeheon got the busiest senses. Boy, he's always thinking and is attentive about Jeong-Yoon. His eyes, always looking for him. He may appear chatting with others but as long as Jeongyoon's with in the range, his sense of hearing works. ... Spoiler..
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Too busy that his mind tend to overthink and misunderstand every little things. Idk if it'll be shown in the manhwa. But in the novel, there's this part where Chae heon saw Jeong-Yoon post a picture with just a small part of a woman caught in the photo and there he thought Jeong-yoon's with some other woman in another country where in fact it's just Jeong-yoon's sister. I mean that's a tiny detail and yet he noticed that then went jealous and mad
please tell me there is progress in their relationship and no more misunderstandings ┗( T﹏T )┛
and please tell me the novel too, may i? ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
Ahh how many times I've read the novel and saw this part in the raws and still getting same and more deep feelings.
What we are seeing now is Hakyung's POV and a little from Yoonsung's, and here I am analyzing Yoonsung's thoughts. What's on his mind and heart during this time he's offering things to Hakyung and even the phrases he utters. Ugh there's this pinch in my heart the way he deliver those lines. The angst we see Hakyung trying to go back to his reality and Yoonsung doing his best and we can see how is he settled that Hakyung will be by his side forever.
Hakyung may continue on pushing Yoonsung but Yoonsung on the other hand will always pull him more closer. Good thing Yoonsung's much stronger in terms like this.(▰˘◡˘▰)
Has the translated novel reached this point in the story?
I honestly don't know about the translated version. I read the novel version in Ridi and just used google translate for me to understand it. That's why I was able to finish it too.
Maybe some readers of translated version here know if it's up to date or not. I believe those are fan translations though. Haven't noticed if there's any announcement of the official novel translation. If there's one, I'd probably buy it too cos this one's really good. :)
Oh okie, thanks!
Ugh just where is Helbert's brother who put Yohan into this unfortunate situation. I understand that Yohan can't do much because of his concern for his younger brother but he wouldn't be here if it weren't of the mischief of Helbert's brother. Just what is his deal! If he'll be one of the factors for us to know Yohan's origin, why he looks very identical to Maria or make Yohan and his brother get a more comfortable life in the future, then maybe I'll thank that guy.
They are rich. Helbert's brother just sees yohan as a fun joke to play, not an individual.
Actually, in the novel, Wooyeon's thing is flaccid but still when he shoved it in Inseop's mouth, it still hurt because he's technically still big down there(but not same as shown here) plus he's getting aroused when he first did that to Inseop.
I actually felt bad that the artist had to redo this part just because some fans complained about the size despite it's how it was described in the novel making it looked not normal at all. Basically, his first man was Inseop and unexpectedly he got aroused is what should be portrayed. Point is not anyone will do, he became like that because it's Inseop but some had to make unnecessary complaints. Making Wooyeon look like a man who only cares what's inside his pants.
This guy is already a red flag since the beginning so there's nothing surprising here. Pls. Remember he has mental problems with no one to manage him.
Anyway, in this situation, Inseop still suffered. Too bad for him that he crossed paths with Wooyeon and Jenie. But it's like he was really meant to meet these two individuals.
All I can say is, have patience readers. If the manhwa will follow the novel, we'll all see is them just going push or pull. Just enjoy everything.
Don't ask for them to have a proper communication.. given with their personalities there's no way it will be easy. :)
I kinda ship Claude and Vincent. Sorryyyyyyyy.
Like Vincent got his match lol
A smartass and a dumbass lmao
they’re a match ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Lmao what, Vincent would kill you if he could read the comments.
If you think about it, Wooyeon here is someone who's not gonna accept any reason except that Inseop saying he likes him(be it maybe the truth or not). That's the only thing he wants to hear from him. He has yet to experience of loving someone prior to him falling for Inseop. That's why instead of him recognising/putting into words the feeling of being betrayed by the person he loves, that reflects to him forcing the other party to utter the word of and to do the act of love to him.
I know Wooyeon has mental issues, I've finished reading the novel too, and have seen how his way of thinking works. I won't defend his actions but just tried to analyze his thought process. This guy's firsts in terms of love emotions will be with Inseop.
where 2 reaaaaad novel?
read it on Ridibooks :)
thank you!
can i have a link? i cant find it on ridibooks
here you go: https://ridibooks.com/books/3420000001
Thank you so much （╹◡╹）♡
Aw this they're so strong Chika little by little, he's getting the healing he deserved. Everything's coming into the light now
Btw, the first years are cute as ever