Jotmyemail's Topics (19)

Lmao

Really hope this is the case cause imagine waiting for an entire month and all you get is 10 pages, but we don't really have a room to complain since we don't even pay for these

I don't know if this is because of the upcoming anime the public school arc

I don't think it's related since it's been years with the manga like this

I know that it would probably make them more popular for their audience if they have emo backstories... but sigh is it corny...

Sorry accidentally liked #－.－)

same

Got it, no need to be rude about it though (￣ε(#￣)Σ

girly just because u dont like it why are u judgin others who enjoy it, like yeah cool state your opionion but why diss ppl who like mpreg

plus u are reacting like someone forced u to read this or u paid to read this
"get this shit away from me" no one is forcing you in the 1st place??????/

Lol can't believe someone have a gut to comment this in a YAOI manwha. Is this your first read or smthng? Cause babe there's much more horrendous thing than a man having a baby and having a family

It's mpreg? Ooops. I'm out of here. Not my cup or tea. Thanks for the warning.

the shen qinqiu pfp lmao, remember the last time a hater raged on the comment section lol

hah? offended that I can state my own opinion? I have standards in BL, and this comic, despite me scouring beforehand, did not tell me it would be mpreg! thus I got pissed LOL
no one thinks this kind of stuff is mentionable beforehand, for some ungodly reason

I have the gall to comment that because it's still a story that has to follow a set of procedures, and from how it was going, I was hoping that the ML was acting all nice in chap 41 because he was turning a new leaf or something, I don't know, I'm not god!
I will write how I feel because I spent HOURS reading this, HOURS, only to be faced with fucking male pregnancy!
go ahead and be pissed on a public forum lololol, because I will too ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

sorry if I offended you, I guess? but that is my opinion, all the words I said, sorry if you felt dissed... (〜￣△￣)〜

and for your second comment, yeah... no one forced me to read this, I read this on my own volition... and got smacked in the face with mpreg...
since I chose to read this, I got extremely disappointed? thought, I'm leaving a comment, because how tf has no one else said anything about forced impregnation?

I agree with you, although nobody "owes" it to you to put tags, I would be annoyed too as it's something I absolutely detest. Thanks for the warning, I'll avoid this

I love this comment!! I think it's spot on, but i just wanted to add my perspective if you don't mind!

I don't think that M did look for another young demon to surpass him. J did it because he truly felt lonely and somewhat scared/apathic after Wald died, but Makoto never felt the need to be surpassed! J was in love with Wald and i feel like he also felt guilty about ending him, while M was just straight up obsessed with J.
Love, hate, respect, obsession: in the end the only thing he always ever strived to have was J in every form. J dying and cursing him was just another tie between them. To me, M went to the slums looking for someone bc that's what J did, rather than because he felt the need to. He did just what he was supposed to, following J footprints. Realizing it didn't bring him any closer to J had him down again, but Fjord was able to get him motivated again just by mentioning J (and he said so himself). Everything J did was because of true loneliness, everything M did was because of J!
It's a bittersweet ending, but i feel like it's also perfect, because we can see that M personality and true drive is still the same, the only thing that changed is the way he's trying to get closer to J.

Of course this is just the way i feel abt it and i may be completely wrong, but i loved your comment and just wanted to add my piece to it!! <3

Noo, I love your stance on this, honestly, I am super media-illiterate and love to see replies with better understanding of the story hahaha
thanks for the reply (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Thank you for sharing, I finished it all last night and my head is reeling. I needed to read other people’s perspective, because there are sooooo many layers to this story to unpack.

I have a question for you though. What do you think Wald’s regret is? Why did his shade remain behind?

Also, Jonathan mentioned at what point if Makoto can “undo wald’s curse.”

Was Jonathan really hoping that Makoto would surpass himself? Or was he hoping that Makoto would only surpass Wald for Jonathan? make Jonathan forget about Wald and make jonathan love Makoto instead? Both scenarios would free Jonathan.

I think this story is about loss. Everybody lost. Wald, Jonathan and Makoto. Truly, love is a demon’s ruin, and we have not seen it reciprocated at all throughout. Even between Datenshou and S. Datenshou is in love with Jonathan, not S.

I find the theme ironic given the whole reason Makoto started this journey is that he wanted to be free from the world and his psychotic desires. It’s like even after all that character progression and plot, Makoto is back to square one. Nobody understood him but Jonathan, and Jonathan is now gone.

I love your thoughts,
and to answer your question,
I am also unsure... part of my unsure-ity stems from my forgetfulness lolol. I don't know if it's because I read the new chapters out in one go, or if it's because I haven't read any of the older chaps since around a year ago (happy new year!!) haha

Perhaps Wald felt regret for even picking the child, Jonathan, up from the streets, knowing it would only end wrongly, considering love for demons never ends well. I think Wald knew he would grow to love Jonathan, considering how overindulgent he was. I think that's also why he didn't want Jonathan to touch him, so the love wouldn't deepen
No demon wants to become weaker or "die," but demons, ironically, still depict humanly desires
Though, that was mostly what I was able to take from what I've read, what you think is probably more in depth... (づ￣ ³￣)づ

What I think Jonathan subconsciously wanted was for someone to, somewhat, replace Wald
That's why he kept picking up little apprentices here and there, who subsequently failed.
When Makoto came, and demonstrated strength and perseverance, whose wish was to literally eat Jonathan, it peaked his interest
Finally, Jonathan thought, someone capable to... to what? I don't think Jonathan really knew himself
I agree with what you said, of how the story is about loss. But I also think it can also be about overcoming tribulations... while Jonathan suffered in the centuries Wald was gone, once he was faced with his past, because of the incense given to him by Makoto, he was able to grow stronger, in a way, he was able to break the curse and understand more, I think..............hmm...

Still not content with this, he waited for Makoto to become more powerful than him, and maybe because he felt he shouldn't go down too easily, he played around with Makoto after the 100 years had passed (ie breaking his horn and such)
Didn't Jonathan finally overcome everything, finally free himself from the underworld and his persistent guilt, once he uttered Makoto's name?
Makoto suffered, and still is suffering, but he is growing from it, and soon will, someday, be in Jonathan's position.
Love may be a demon's worse weakness, their undoing, but it is what also teaches them growth, considering their hedonistic tendencies

Really, I don't know... I think being a demon itself just guarantees pain and suffering, regardless of whether there is love or not
Maybe love acts as the catalyst in one's life and finally teaches them what their self-indulgent, gluttonous choices from before couldn't, that they can truly lose somebody

This story makes my head twirl, I only wonder how intelligent the author must be to conjure all of this up lol

But take what I've said with the tiniest granule of salt, I'm a little embarrassed as even I am unsure with my own thoughts and interpretations, hahahahahahaha

No no, I really appreciate hearing your take on it. this is seriously what keeps the story from being gratuitously violent: The many layers that are open to interpretation. I loved reading your take on it, as it’s almost like rereading the work in a new light. I think I’ll be revisiting this manga in a few months. I think the gore and depravity were mostly allegory: I keep returning to what Makoto said… how terribly human these demons were at their core.

I totally agree (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

I sorry I don’t know
Imma just leave a comment so I can get a notification when someone does know

Haha I had the novel opened as I read this, here you go:
https://readhive.org/series/44794/1.1/

Ah, I didn't read your whole comment, idk how many chapters are on there, sorry to get your hopes up (￣∇￣")

Thank you savior

I see it more as snake gets brought back and works against them and helps his Master, while pretending to be under their control.

I feel you but I also think that the author might portray that even if one does wish to run away, they can't, and even if they do have the opportunity, who knows how broken one is mentally let alone physically to do so. (more to a real life scenerio of forced prostitution)

thanks for the reply
I get that, (why I said "as impossible as it even sounds")
I just wish the author didn't, like, take literally any chance to draw Geom being r*ped and draw it so detailed, making him look all "aesthetically" broken as he moans.. fills me with disgust
Like, for instance, when Geom was being SA'd (mind you, I only got to chap 18 and haven't read further so lmk if I'm wrong), you got all the shots you do in regular smut, and when it was implied that he bled or something, you hardly saw the wound... why does the author value the penetration (ie the more "attractive" shots that are often displayed in BL) than the brutal pain that comes with it? Don't tell me about censorship and whatnot, if they can draw heavy smut, they can draw some blood and wounds, heaven knows the author doesn't care to drop trigger warnings either way
Also, I know that he staggers sometimes, and cries a lot
Obviously, I can just choose not to read it, but I feel like this kind of this is important to talk about

You don't wanna keep reading this lmao. I forgot which chapters but Geom's backstory was actually torture to read. The rape scenes just kept going. Every new chapter was another graphic display of Geom being raped or beaten. I was seriously concerned over the amount of time the artist must've spent drawing brutal rape scenes. Shouldn't they be sick of it by now?? We really don't need so many rape scenes drawn in graphic detail.

But you'll see Geom in anguish for sure. It was especially tough to get through because of how much you could see him suffering. I thought that I wouldn't be able to survive what he went through. I don't know how someone keeps their sanity after all that.

Literally, even I had to skip some chapters cause they were extremely brutal for my mental health.

It's to hit home the cruelty of sexual slavery, and the confluence of high society and the criminal underworld. And just how blasé rape and sex slavery are to those who will do anything to have power.

Maybe it's too much for some readers to handle, but the author thinks it's appropriate to show just how cruelly he was treated, and the bullshit that he has to endure, and how his original anger eventually faded into apathy and despair.

After rereading your reply, no offense, but I don't think you got my point?
Part of my point was that the story wasn't showing how cruelly he was being treated by avoiding the wounds and blood, and continuously choosing to maintain his pretty, broken image
Geom is typically the main perspective, but we are only shown rape that comes with pretty highlights and submissive poses, tearing him down to his core, while making sure to point out the dick sliding in shot, and then him being left there like a used toy. Thus, I can accept that this is in the perspective of the assaulters and meant to depict part of the cruelty that comes with being in his situation

However, once alone, the story reverts back to his point of view. As a result, shouldn't it show the blood, the cuts, the UGLY crying, the moments alone where he idolizes suicide or something, the things no one wants to see because of how painful it is, now that he's not in the tangible grip of his captors? (again, I have read to only chap 18)

My whole point was that the reader is shown these awful moments, that, to me, almost feel like its romanticizing his pain by doing what all toxic BL does, which is minimizing the mc to a pretty, broken doll whose constantly raped to feel like he's worth nothing. I get that that's the whole point of this story, I get that he's a sex slave, being torn down, and being forced to accept the feelings of despair by not being able to run away, but, with how resilient he's been, shouldn't he be shown, by the author, that he is more than just that?
The author controls what's put in the story, they can easily add more painful, personal, moments, instead of opting for another sex scene that adds nothing to the story that most people would just prefer to skip because the message, about how awful rich, higher ups in the criminal underworld are, has already been established?

Maybe I'm just media-illiterate and too blind to see the underlying message, maybe I'm just too stubborn. sorry for writing an essay.
btw not attacking or trying to make you feel like I'm conceited or something, just replying with my opinion :(