this is one where you can go back to before this disgusting generation infected yaoi. rude people who read only to find fault. their comments insult the author, and they think that's okay. It's not. It's offensive. O.Y. is one of the best of the best. Fans were always gentle and respectful before the worst people on earth came here to p*ss on every single respected and loved author and their work. They're destructive and hateful all under the banner of "no like rape" get some manners. If you can't handle a soft rape element in a story without scolding like a nun and ranting like a fire and brimstone preacher, you're too immature to read it. This is a sweet, funny comedy. try to remember that
Exactly, like some of these comments just ruin the story sometimes. Because then I'd be on the lookout for all these scenes, and it ruins the mood. I probably could've enjoyed this story more if it weren't for all the snowflakes in the comments.
Sorry I meant to like
What in the world is "soft r*pe", and why does it make me sick to my stomach?
You're part of the problem then. You even censored the word. But to answer your question, some rape scenes in some Yaoi mangas are like gang bangs and drugging the uke and hitting the, and usually there a multiple rape scenes. This manga is just one rape scene that doesn't include these hardcore elements. Don't read manga that contain rape scenes if you're going to overreact about it. It's just a story. There is usually a viewer discretion near the summary area of a manga.
No, you're very much one of the problems if you believe that r*pe should be normalised in any way. Even r*pe kinks involve consent beforehand. Meanwhile, the lesser of two evils is still an evil, in case you don't know. R*pe without multiple scenes, aggressive rejection, drugging, and/or ganging is still r*pe. Sure, this is just fiction, but it glosses over the idea so much, and thinking that it's okay is sickening.
Also, I censor the word to avoid triggering anyone who sees these comments, but I suppose you don't care about that.
I'm not saying it's okay at all. The rape scene in this manga contributed to character development. I'm not going to cry about a rape scene. There were rape warnings in the comments, tags, and on the chapters too. If you can't handle rape in a story, then don't read it. You're probably a minor, and shouldn't be reading these types of stories anyways. You're just seeing the surface level of things, but there's always a reason for these scenes.
Once again, I don't believe rape should be normalized in anyway.
Also, censoring the word doesn't do much at all.
No, the r*pe scene very much didn't need to happen if the author weren't trying to rush an early sex scene.
I don't care if you're fetishising r*pe, if you get turned on reading r*pe scenes, or believe it's okay just because it's fiction. I'm saying that it shouldn't be looked over so easily because it's the ML to the MC, because they're endgame, and/or because MC enjoyed it.
Also, there were zero r*pe warnings in the summary, in the tags, and at the beginning of the manga. NSFW warnings do not equal r*pe warnings, because, surprise! Sex isn't always r*pe.
Don't suddenly act reasonable and say "once again". Not once in this thread beforehand have you said r*pe shouldn't be normalised. Why do I know this? Because I do my research before starting a debate about something that shouldn't even need a debate. Your responses are perfunctory and mediocre at best.
So what if censoring the word "doesn't do much at all". At least it does something, and at least I'm trying somehow.
I don't feel like wasting energy on this anymore. I'd be lying if I said it was nice talking to you.
So, I'm just trying to understand. I can read this, but it would be wrong of me to "romanticize" it, right? In other words, as I'm reading this I need to think about real life rape victims and how they would feel it they were the characters in the story, right? I can read it, but it is essential that I upset myself each time a rape scene is happening. Even if the author intends me to enjoy the gorgeous art and the heat of the sex, I'm not supposed to. Why? because we have to make sure we pin reality onto fiction! We are not allowed to just escape and enjoy it. no. you must upset yourself and feel bad throughout the sex scenes if there's the slightest hint of rape. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? i'M READIN this to get away from thoughts of RL rape!!
I must follow the new goddamn hairbrained new rules of the snowrape generation. Well pardon me but that sounds EXACTLY LIKE the convoluted religious beliefs I was raised with.
ily, you worded this beautifully. people need to separate fiction from reality, bc is that not the whole purpose of fiction?
some of the too-young-for-yaoi have it actually tangled with reality, if you know what I mean. I think they were seriously indoctrinated into the cult of ... I don't know. lol something weird and unseen before, totally pointless and ultimately destructive.
someone talk to me please
can you see me?
yes
thank you so much
I was not getting any reponse for so long anywhere I got "restricted account paranoia" LOL ty
oh lol npp
Ain’t nobody cares about what you say is all.
I care. cheesedog
Imma say it again, just for that GORGEOUS piece of art in Ch 5 p 17. no matter the sexual content, that is among kuko's best illustrations in all her books. Seriously too bad the uploader cut it up.
not blaming the uploader for doing what she's gotta do to give us this gift
every downvote I collected is like proof of the jackass philistines in the background with their puritanical cowardly sense of nothing
it's because you're dumb and lack common sense
otokke or sleepy don't be dumb. this was about one piece of the author's art. it's about taste not common sense
holt shlt, if I'm dumb, what are you? lol cave men?
way better than a 29-year-old man just grow tf it's giving nobody loves me behavior lmafoo even people on this website thinks your dumb
pffft don't care
did care enough to respond dumbass
the asians are dealing with the one-dimensional westerners of the snowrape generation who interpret all sex into rape if they possibly can. LOL They crave their "rapey" element. Otherwise they are denied their daily hysterics.
That’s true but just asians? 0-0
I don't know. I don't see a lot of western yaoi that can come close to the gorgeous stuff coming out of the east. Puts us to shame. we should be embarrassed. LOL
Choko - don't know if I got that name right. is a western artist out there, doing nice work gintama dj and osomatsu-san dj. i'm slaughtering these names. sheesh
Why do you have to bring people nationality into this????
i very much admire the Korean artists, and was flattered to be invited to one of their reading sites. I like their attitude about the art. Are you actually telling me that I can't compliment Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese artists of this genre? Well, I don't think that's right at all. I also think it's fine to discuss language, various problems with translations, general information of a neutral nature to better understand
people looking with a magnifying glass for any hint of 'wrong' are making a world where everyone is walking on eggshells. I know that that's wrong
both western and eastern stuff are bad lol you just gotta scroll deeper
I will take that under advisement. thanks lol
This CS is for comments on this manhwa. let's keep it that way, commenters who are focusing on me.
Say something smart, make it real, or just forget about it.
If you can't separate unreasonable irrational thought from actions, you're no help to society, rape victims, courts of law, and you certainly aren't able to validly critique this work. If all you've got is "It has rape. ewww" then consider it already said by others and kindly refrain from adding to the hateful remarks here.
A lot of people are commenting on the r@pe in this manga for good reason, it’s weird and the author romanticizes it
All yaoi works use the romantic plot. They are supposed to be romantic. It's the whole point of the genre. It would be impossible to use the Romance plot and not create romance using elements within the structure. You can't violate the plot just because you aren't mature enough to handle rape as a writer's device to consolidate their plot. That's entirely unreasonable to the point of absurdity. Readers who don't have the intelligence and sophistication to read these stories with getting emotional aren't mature enough for the yaoi genre.
If you need rape to pull the romance elements in your manga together, you just don't know how to write good stories with a good plot and good characters. That's that. Rape is unnecessary when you aim for romance and when you advertise your manga as a romance and it's filled to the brim with rape, it defeats the whole purpose of the manga being romance because rape isn't romantic in the first place. If you aim for a thriller, horror, drama genre without having a romance aspect, maybe rape could work whithin certain settings. But this is just distasteful.
oh i see. so Anais Nin, Henry Miller, Nabakov, so many more.... just don't know how to write good stories with a good plot and good characters? That's the stupidest post of the day .... or it would be if I hadn't already seen this same dimwit uneducated utter nonsense 3 other times today.
don't insult my intelligence with this sh.t
If you read correctly what I said, you would have known that if you NEED rape to pull your story together. If good author can write both good stories with and without rape, that's not the same. Learn how to read.
Who is insulting your intelligence? I'm not the one throwing a fit because someone said that if you cannot pull the romance aspect of your manga without rape at all you just don't know how to write a good plot and characters. Take the rape out of this story and tell me, would the story still be "good" in your standards? Probably not. It would feel like a wet piece of bred. Now with the rape, this manga just feels like moist bread because the writing isn't good either.
that's the author's decision. not yours. not mine
throwing a fit. lol as if you had that kind of power
Authors aren't free of criticism and if people are displeased with a story they have every rights to voice it. If they had put more time into building an actual story and develop their characters rather than putting time and effort on rape, it would have been beneficial to the story overall and it would of had alot more backbone than it does.
you talk like you think your criticism matters. I think that your hyperfocus on rape to the point of mental illness makes you yet another victim of the mass hysteria of the snowrape generation.
w----would have not would of
like, an entire age group of frigid bltches
Looking through your profile, I wonder who really has a hyperfixation on rape between the 2 of us. Even if it doesn't matter, does it mean people cannot discuss it? No, they ABSOLUTELY can. Comment sections are there for a reason, it's there to voice your opinion. That's how the site works. I won't be sorry for voicing mine just because you don't accept people saying that romanticizing rape is kinda gross. If that makes me frigid, I don't care at all, I'm very much capable of reading mangas with rape in it, doesn't mean I agree with the overusage of the rape trope and doesn't mean I can't dislike it either. You sound like a very sad person deprived of actual human interaction and it shows. Duces
you just don't get it. you don't get a say in whether rape is used in anything, and "romanticied" is the dumbest of irrelevant ideas. oh thank you for feeling sorry for me, you are so sweet.
don't care about rape. not a woman. not fixated. not anything for me to be all scared of. sympathetic to women for having to deal with the issue, though.
can't even walk to your car in a parking lot. really really sucks. unfair
this, rude immature habit "learn to read" "are you stupid'
There you are!!!! I found you
Ok bae let’s start here, rape isn’t romantic. Period. Yes, authors can include rape in their stories to add trauma to character and aid their character development but rape is not suppose to be something that makes people fall in love. In this manga, and many other yaois they romanticize rape all the time and the community is calling them out on it bc it’s sick and harmful. What is wrong with you, you are going to hell and back defending this “rape is romance” concept u seem to be promoting
*without
i will gladly march into hell to defend this and any concept these authors wants or need to use!!! Do you get that? Do you even comprehend what you're proposing? Do you even understand a tiny bit that what you and your little friends are doing is tyranny? Do you even slightly realize that there's five generations of people walking this planet willing to to defend their freedoms with their LIVES from ANY tiny-brained group of mutant oppressors? Has that comprehension truly never dawned on your snowrape generation frigid brain?
Stick your call-out culture up your ass
bae
“I will gladly March into hell to defend the fact I think rape is romantic” do u see how you sound?? Sick asf u need actual help and that is a disgusting way of thinking. If you can’t handle people criticizing a yaoi bc it romanticizes rape then are YOU even mature enough to be reading it. There are a few mangas where they have rape in it and it’s not the start or reason of the start of their romance. For you to sit here and defend the fact that “rape is romance” is so unbelievably disgusting.
You must quote me verbatim to use quote marks. Otherwise you're just lying.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? i'M READIN this to get away from thoughts of RL rape!!
So the rules. I can read this, but it would be wrong of me to "romanticize" it, right? In other words, as I'm reading this I need to think about real life rape victims and how they would feel if they were the characters in the story, right? I can read it, but it is essential that I upset myself each time a rape scene is happening. Even if the author intends me to enjoy the gorgeous art and the heat of the sex, I'm not supposed to We are not allowed to just escape and enjoy it. no. you must get deep into violated victim territory within yourself and feel bad throughout the sex scenes if there's the slightest hint of rape.
I must follow the new goddamn hairbrained new rules of the snowrape generation. Well pardon me but that sounds EXACTLY LIKE fundie christian bs.
You're one nasty piece of work. calling me sick, disgusting,
Who said u can’t read and enjoy the works. Literally no one. Ur original comment said that people don’t have to comment on the r@pe in this manga and my response was that them calling out how they romanticize it is valid. YOU were the one bending over backwards to invalidate other people’s feelings towards the fetishization of rape in this manga. Re-read the whole conversation and try to see everyone’s point,
And also they way u just said “even if the author intends me to enjoy the gorgeous art and heat of the sex” is exactly what you need to evaluate. Bc it’s not sex, it’s rape. Ur not suppose to enjoy rape scenes you sicko. And that’s exactly why people call out yaoi who romanticize rape, bc weirdos like you think it’s just “sex” when it’s not that. Lowkey promoting rape culture :/
you contradict yourself, clearly saying ppl aren't allowed to enjoy these works because there's rape. rape in fiction is different than rape in rl. when will you learn this? You're also condescend and rude. I might be rude, but at least I don't sound like the proverbial witch mother. You forgot to cackle.
I have/had a mother. You're not her. I know cuz she's dead. I don't need your immature scolding
I never say, "the fact that" It's substandard usage. you must quote me to use quotation marks.
reference: *use that. unless there's just no way around using the cloddish "the fact that."
Again, completely missed my point. No one is contradicting themselves my point the whole time was that fetishizing rape in yaoi is bad, and it’s something you clearly do. And then how are u gonna acknowledge that I’m being “condescending and rude” when you are literally doing the same thing, when I’m not even trying to be condescending. I’m making a valid point and you’re switching the topic to grammar bc you can’t refute it. Some good yaois have rape in them, SOME though. Most of them fetishize it, and THATS what people are calling out. No one has a problem with authors using rape in their stories as long as they don’t romanticize it, and that’s been my consistent point this whole time. Again, try reading the whole conversation again to see EVERYONES point not just mine.
Also, summarizing someone’s point is also apart of basic grammar. When I said that it was exactly how you sounded so I put quotations marks to emphasize that. Quotations aren’t just used for dialogue sweetheart. And THATS me being condescending.
you can't use them to paraphrase, though.
so specifically define what you mean by "fetishizing rape" please. give me a good example. I'd appreciate it
you really shouldn't make a grammatical error when lecturing me on grammar. saying apart of grammar is incorrect.
Where you're irritating me is calling me sweetheart when you're not using it as an endearment.
I never said that rape is romance. that's stupid. you're actually twisting my words instead of summarizing my point. rape is not romantic. However, to me your line of thought seems like a cloud of circulating ideas all bouncing off each other.
What I'm hearing you say is that there can be violent rape in these stories, it can look painful, the victim can be injured. All of that is fine with you. I am supposed to suffer in empathy with the victim. If the scene appears to be romantic in any way, I'm not supposed to see any romance in it, right?
EXACTLY. Rape isn’t romantic, and it isn’t the start of a relationship. You aren’t suppose to see romance in rape scenes bc the victim is being forced to do something sexually that they don’t want to do. Yaois do this all of the time and that’s what everyone has a problem with. If the uke clearly doesn’t want to do it and the seme does it bc he “likes him”, and as a result the uke falls in love THATS romanticizing rape. If all the sex scenes in a manga are always non consensual and they’re relationship while they do it all the time that’s fetishizing rape, sex scenes are suppose to be SEX scenes not rape scenes.
Even if this hypothetical rape of yours is part of the plot, you're saying I should separate it, pull it up from the fabric of the story, and think of it differently than the author intends. Is this correct?
As for the rapist, he is supposed to have done something evil, must be punished, and he must not have any good fortune at all. the uke is allowed to end up alone or with another side character, but not for a long time until he's recovered from the rape.
This all sounds like a realistic story, which I'm not interested in.
So, please tell me why is it okay for you to tell me how I'm supposed to react? How can you legislate how a person feels?
What your saying goes against free will. who does this romanticizing/fetishizing? The reader of the author? who are you blaming? Is it your aim to abolish the things you're talking about? That's how it sounds. You're telling people how they should feel about what they read, which is none of your business.
Reader or the author*
Let's talk about the other side. Is the reader also not supposed to feel aroused
in Ghost Child or Lost Virgin is the reader not allowed to feel anything?
this is a link to your dream story. It's downvoted to an 8.0 rating. Account for your fellow anti-romanticizer's failure to see its gay rights message and utter hatred and disrespect. https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/renai_fuyuki_todoki/
Atp ur doing this on purpose, bc u understand my point but ur still adamant about romanticizing rape. Obviously u don’t see a problem and don’t want to see one, so go ahead and be a weirdo. It doesn’t matter what the authors intentions were, yaois romanticize rape all the time. I gave u an example and everything, but if u insist on getting aroused bc someone is getting raped in a manga that’s you. You can be....weird.. in peace I’m done explaining this to u bc u obviously aren’t listening. If u wanna know what fetishization and romanticizing is google it.
And notice how not one time did I say ur suppose to feel some type of way everytime the uke gets raped. It’s just something u shouldn’t be complacent about, do u just not remember saying “don’t comment” on the rape in this manga when people were criticizing it?? Like ur acting like people are tryna cancel yaoi and no one is fucking doing that people are just saying the way most of them romanticize rape is problematic. You defending this like they’re paying u and I promise they arent.
And since u don’t seem to get it, I’ll finish by restating my point. People are allowed to criticize yaois that romanticize rape. People are calling it out bc it’s weird. No one is cancelling yaois or authors, it’s just a point that’s out there. Would I like yaois to stop romanticizing rape? Yeah, but the majority of them do and it is what it is. Don’t know wtf ur point has been this whole time but the fact u fight tooth and nail to keep rape in yaoi and want no one to criticize it bc it’s there is weird. It’s a sensitive topic, people are allowed to talk about it. U fetishize rape in yaoi and it’s adamantly clear, if u wanna change that that’s sumn u have to recognize within yourself.
so you're saying it's the authors, referred to you by "yaois" but what you really are saying is that you're blaming the authors. Next you're saying it's the readers who romanticize rape. Make up your mind. Next, you are seriously violating my identity as a human being and my own sense of self by accusing me of fetishizing rape. that's stupid as hell, rude, and uncalled for.
You people say things in such an extremist way that anyone with a brain will think that you're making every effort to lean on authors and the industry to completely change, to abolish all rape in all fiction. Your talk is absurdly extreme. I'm saying it's the author who decides what happens inside their own work. It's the author's decision, not a pack of ill manered brats who demand like no other age group ever has. I picked rape to make a stand because it's the point being made the hardest by all of you. I don't give a fuck about rape. I give a fuck about an entire age group, and that's a huge amount of people, yelling their heads off about how all rape in yaoi is to be expunged from the genre. That's how you and the rest sound. I'm calling out the the extremist rhetoric of you and your cohorts. That's it. Do not call me something unless you know for sure, and ASK me where I stand. All this assuming and accusing calls your entire group's integrity into question. You invalidate your own selves by invalidating me with such rotten behavior as that, and I'm sick as hell of your rudeness.
Authors should not be subjected to the extreme, hateful rudeness you're calling criticism. Artists are sensitive, and you're handling their work and their own selves by coming after them with hatchets and pitchforks. It's not necessary to take it to those levels of utter hatred. It's to the point where any and every artist will not want to write or draw BL, or they'll not want to change but rebel against such outrageous, absurd, destructive attitudes. Go to any author's professional critiques and they may not be flowery and all hearts and roses, but they're certainly nowhere close to your level of rough, sledge hammer rudeness and utter disrespect. my god, you should hear yourselves. it's like a tidal wave of sheer hatred. Readers before you were polite. You cast a sludge of invalidation over all of us.
Ok fetishizer
Okay, abuser
Ok rape enthusiast
what quicksilver said. shut your pie hole, SuniiD
I did for like a week and then u came in co signing, y’all go be fetishizers together
we already do
Good for y’all, leave me alone
I respect this author who probably suffered some burnout due to the younger fan's lack of all humanity toward our yaoi authors. I think she had a need to get out from under all the harrassment from the people who aren't mature enough to understand a rape element as handled in a romance plot. Without all the pressure from today's immature fans, I think she could have relaxed and worked out her story however many chapters it took. I wish her well and wish she'd had a better climate as in that of 2017 and before. i hope her next book also pushes limits, but the cruelty of the younger fans does nothing but inhibit the authors and force them to work under harsh limitations. This nasty atmosphere is eroding this genre, and I wish a very very great deal more sensitivity and welcoming attitude from them, and that it would dawn on them how destructive they are to the art and the genre.
uhm the fuck are you saying?? i havent read this and saw this comment by scrolling thru mangago but are you okay buddy?? please see a doctor and stay away from people.
you can stop anytime with your utterly rude opening, rayha, who joins in with cutting an artist and his work in a gossip session. posting the link to his work in progress not ready webcomic all the fck over mangago. The asshole who reports someone's profile for one reason: someone told her to, so she picked through my fkn profile and found a little tidbid to report to get brownie points with the gang. sheep. sycophant. I don't have enough bad words for a sorry, easily led, badly intended, bad person in worse company, spineless bltch
I'm not your buddy. I don't like you. I don't respect you. Your see a doctor line is rude as hell. You don't know me one bit. you don't know my art, but you're willing to help sabotage it. you go to hell
You were the first to insult the author tho? Hypocrisy level 100000000000
« If this bltch wraps this up with kang and junho having only this much of a relationship, while she kept us on hold all this time reading about irrelevant shlt, I'm going to hunt her down and shove this manhwa up somewhere.« Quicksilver 2021
I’m flabbergasted
Omg bro this is so fucking funny why are you so angry (︶︿︶)＝凸
QS: Your openings are rude.
Also QS: Starts a convo by calling someone whom he never talked to an asswipe THE HYPOCRISY
POV: you're waiting for QS to find his balls so he can anwser
Day 3037381992873. still no reply
Well I told him I'd look into all the textures he used in his webtoon to check if they're copyright free if he tickled me the wrong way, so he prolly dropped them on purpose.
(≧∀≦)! I can’t! His webtoon is gonna go from a 2 stars rating to a fucking trial
He messed with the wrong ADHD, my hyperfixation won't leave me in peace till I dig into that now (⊙…⊙ )
!!!!!!!! I can’t wait ngl!
I do my own work, stupid nosy whore
It's called hyperfocus. and the jury's out on whether it even exists
sensory processing disorder, on the other hand, is real. and you're way beyond my threshold
people with ADHD don't celebrate stuff like Hyperfocus. None of it's an advantage. People who really have this, know that
so you go right on ahead and do your worst. torture people who already have difficult lives, who you should maybe have an ounce of empathy for, claiming ownership of the shit that is adhd like it's a merit badge. it's your soul
I'm waiting for any one of you to display the slightest bit of humanity for a week now.
wait, no, it was2 May 19 when this started. so about 2 weeks
All what textures? wtf? I work from sketches and my storyboard.
that much I can easily prove
Is that kaname the sex surrogate?
Oho, somone's angy~ welp, you asked for it...
I think I'm good man, I'll do that on my own. Watch out for that changing color horse in the meantime!
yes, I got that even armchair artists can pick out a change of color in a DRAFT of their UNFINISHED WORK
this??? "I was just down on your home page. posting lots of fun shit. lmao
Sticky Socks June 9, 2021 5:05 pm
Oh would you look at that, new proof you harassing me knowing full well what you're doing, you're really making collecting evidence on you easy these last days.
Quicksilver June 11, 2021 2:19 pm
You're in my comment section. I hold the mortgage. ::kicking you out::
This is just lighthearted banter. I told you before, you seem like you're flirting when you say outlandish, silly, ridiculous stuff that no one, including you, could take seriously. Also, "these last few days" sounds like we're acquainted and used to joking with each other. I was obviously responding to your joking, flirting threats. I thought the crazy extreme stuff you said were cute.
When I found out you were dead serious with your unreasonable shlt, every ounce of cute, funny charm drained away like piss down a toilet.
It's easy to start disliking someone whose style of communicating is nagging, threatening, and assuming the worst. Is there even one nice pleasant kind bone in your body?
Why do you have to be this way? It's really mean-spirited. I hate it, which is why I respond to you like you're an annoyance. I was nice enough to try to find out something about the people who had gone out of their way to cause me harm, hoping to understand and maybe make peace. This is how you treat people?
This is pitiful even for you. I already debunked the false argument that I was flirting with you in any way elsewhere, so go read our conversations back.
I asked you to apologise to me, um, Doppio, Sleepy, black lotus and Nicto for the harassmentand stalking you've been doing for two months. You became enraged and refused. Then I changed my terms. I just wanted an apology. You refused. Then when I very kindly again, told you I would just take a promise that you'd stop spreading stuff behind my back about me and I would stop telling people about what you've done, you refused again.
I think I was very patient with you. Now, if you have any kind of logical thinking left, you'd understand it's best for you to back down. I can literally just link my question with the screenshots of my wall and the other three topics you and I have discussed these last few days to prove you never wanted to "make peace".
Before two to three years ago Yaoi fans were adult enough to handle a rape element in a romantic plot without getting emotional. If you've already got a head full of steam about rape, a simple device used to consolidate a plot, you're not mature enough to read this genre.
Early 2000s and imo mostly 2010s were crazy in yaoi. Shotacon and rape were everywhere ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
yeah, maybe you're right. I still see those stories, and it seems like it's as much as ever to me, but i think that some sites collect fewer of those, and some collect more. The authors of those stories are often working through their own trauma by dealing with it and expressing it through their art. I'd never want to take that freedom away from them
Well the louder audience are the only ones to speak up so we never know the opinions of silent readers too
yes. I wish that wasn't the case
the best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity
Well the rape aside, the plot was ass. Some people seemed surprised the uke and seme fell in love with each other even after he raped him idk why though. It happens 100 percent time in yaoi.
Although the author should at least done a redemption arc for the seme it would at least made up for something.
Well I don't like talking abt these things but some ppl get yk uuuuuuuhhh r@pe kink after getting r@ped and some of em even falls in love to the r@pist Idk why I think it's some kind of psychological illness but yeah if u think about it like that the story makes sense....kinda Ig
I m reader of yaoi mostly , I have read may old work most of them involve rape most of but I never been bothered by it cuz it's just thatz how history of yaoi beeen , but u said something new that when author made something like this means they r suffered same trauma or something I m kinda deep rooted that I thought people just found force in Yaoi exciting I also used found and I still found sometimes it's exciting but only in fictional but I m more bothered by the way people are not silently enjoyin it as fiction but interpreting it into real world that is kinda disturbing way back in 2015 or more before people don't mentioned rape or bothered by rape in Yaoi (it's just my opinion so far in Yaoi world )
thank you. I agree with you
This has a beautiful message about gay rights, which no one seems to notice. You're so blinded by the explicit rape, which the author chooses to show. It shows the trauma the uke suffers as a result. It shows how much the seme suffers due to guilt. This is so far underrated it's pathetic. How can anyone be so blind as to not notice this story's value.
I'm seriously disgusted with the comments. The failure to notice the author's message, the insulting posts, the failure to credit the author, who struggled with her plot, trying to show complex issues within a yaoi story, things no one else has had the guts to show before. I see nothing but insults below. This should be a dream story for people who are so opposed to rape. Where is your approval, gratitude, and recognition?