Just suddenly felt like crying for the uke.
Seme is a lot like most guys irl. They ‘want’ you but is either too dense or manipulative to give real love.
If you can’t have empathy over a fictional character who’s a teen mom with childhood trauma, I wonder how you react to people who struggle in real life. I wonder how you give advice to friends and loved ones. I wonder how you react to news of people being gunned down. I wonder, do you only socialise to people who are aligned with your ‘moral code’? It seems like your world view is very restricted. Very ignorant over reality. It must be such a shock to go onto this site and read fictional stories And then get so freaked out that they have elements of real life. I bet you get so freaked out. I think you only expect your life and the mangas/manhwas That you read to only be about linear happy things.
I reached chapter 4 but suddenly wanted to check the comment section, to see if anyone finds this story a bit off. And I’m glad to find out that I’m not alone! Something about the main character/uke keep having an inner dialogue of ‘he’s so handsome’ on both ex and current boyfriend - makes him come across as shallow.
I kind of wanted the uke to come across like tormented or confused but it seems like he neither truly cares for any of the seme. Idk.
The uke is just a mess
I don’t get this flooding of hateful comments. Like why are people are so shocked and repulsed. Isn’t it a known thing that mangas and animes in general, almost always have some elements of rape, incest and all crazy weird shit.
It’s just how they are. We don’t actively look for it though. It’s just kind of a known thing. We don’t go and be like ‘oh yesss there’s tentacles raping the protagonist! That made my day!’
Like no. We read these mangas or watch these animes for the story. But we kind of know that there’s always some weird thing these authors or artists are going to put in. We can’t control that.
We are not what we read or watch.
Some people like gorey horror genres but it doesn’t mean they want to bathe in blood irl.
Like, I sometimes come across and read yaois with brotherxbrother tag but hell no do I want to be with my brother romantically. Ew.
I honestly feel like both parties were wrong tbh. Like, the plot was interesting, and I was a tad uncomfortable with how Shouto LITERALLY deceived and tricked Midoriya into having sex and how he was reverted back to his middle school self, but at the same time Midoriya was still physically older, like he had been alive longer (how ever old they were in general but they were deff adults) so it's not TECHNICALLY pedophilia, but atst I can see why the first person would consider this innopropriate and wrong, because MAPS do use Loli art as a way to by pass the laws of Child porn (they have admitted it themselves on YOUTUBE) BUT they didn't have to be rude either, like they said "political statement" so why were they so angry that they had to swear and call the other names? Obviously talking about these topics will ALWAYS cause controversy but I honestly feel that if you can't keep your personal feelings out of it, and you KNOW it upsets you, why put yourself in a situation to deal with that? Tags exist for a reason, to PROTECT those who are easily triggered and/or cannot deal with sensitive topics. I, myself read tons of disturbing material because it helps me make my issues seem MUCH much smaller. So when you take a topic, that's obviously a little twisted, and read on anyways, KNOWING you are going to get upset, and still CHOOSE to write aNEGATIVE comment, insulting people, they you are Gaslighting YOU want drama. When people know the way they cope with things is odd and are self conscious about it, and you come in here, knowing what's waiting, YOU look like a bad person. Some people read themes that relate to them so that they can learn to cope and accept the it happened and move on. That being,that does not mean that pedos can use the same excuse to deal with their cravings (MAPS are pedos idc what you say) pedos are predators and should be locked up, but does that mean that everyone else must be punished because someone else is abusing the content? No. So please, open your mind a bit more and think about other ways this can be used other than sexual. Because sometimes, you pointing out the obvious isn't helping. If you would like to respond, please keep it professional because this topic does not need to be talked about besides anything but. I will not respond to you use insulting words/phrases because I have not done the same to you. Let's be respectful.
What’s your guy’s speculation on why was Bakugo so angry when he was asked to take care of kid Midoriya?
Side note, Todoroki is is soooo handsome!! (づ￣ ³￣)づ
Damn, Idk how the author drew him to make him look super dreamy. Is it the sad eyes?
He's always angry not like he need a reason it's bakugo's things
I think it was on chapter 3 when we see Ikuro’s mom having sex with Norihiko... she said like “he looks more and more like you, dear”.
Can anyone help confirm or debunk this?
She also stated that the air plane was made by his father (the butler), Not only that but some weird things were said by the butler during sex, something about him wanting to be embraced by his father???? honestly im just hella lost
Omfg never even thought of that....would explain the fathers behaviour too of ignoring him...
I think his mother was confusing Norihiko with her husband, since she later says to him not to go to the other woman, meaning Ranzou's mom. So he probably isn't his father.
But then how old was norihiko when he first started effin ikuros mom??
It's not stated clearily but it seems he was still in school, so he was in his teen's. He also is just 10 years older than Ikuro, so he can't really be his father.
Still cant be 100% tho if hes not the father since this manga is v fucked up.. whY HASnt this updated in forever（￣へ￣）
I like how the recent chapters show us Noah’s “coming of age” story and showing us him exploring his sexuality as a teen.
But I feel seeing him being showed that he’s paired with a guy creates a clash in the story.
I see a lot of people comparing and saying that they prefer Dohye over Nayeon.
Now it’s like she’s weak she’s a hoe etc.
It’s like she’s suddenly the problem in the story.
Female protagonists seem to be a target for hate all the time.
If they’re not a “fighter”, they’re automatically hated and labeled incompetent or useless.
Sad.
I actually do not dislike Nayeon however I do not and always felt that Nayeon wasn't a good fit for Noah due to her being heterosexual and not really seeming to want to get to know Noah without it being about her vagina. It's cool, sex is a great thing and even the author of this story got some well needed criticism over Noah and Nayeo.'s relationship and how she's handling Noah's sexual abuse. Do you honestly think someone who is going through something that Noah is going through needs to be with someone like Nayeon that only thinks about pleasure? I can't speak for everyone else but I like Doyhe because he generally cares about Noah even in the future. Sure, Doyhe is acting like a horny teenager because in this story he is a horny teenager. It has nothing to do with Yaoi for me.
i agree *shrug*
I meant hypersexual not heterosexual
I do agree that female characters often get criticized for being too superficial but this is a story where this is actually valid. Nayeon had only considered Noah for sex and while Dohye had sexual feelings for Noah, he simultaneously wanted to cherish him and marry him. He is the sole person that genuinely cares and loves Noah and considering his sexual abuse, that is what he deserves.
She can’t be Noah’s ’hero’ like how everyone’s expecting her to be when she doesn’t even know 100% what’s happening to Noah all the time.
And I don’t think Noah expects her to be involved. He just wants to be with her.
We see Nayeon having sex with Noah or blushing or whatever and few chapters before that we see Noah being abused. But we see that, not Nayeon.
When you’re in love with someone and the relationship is new, you don’t automatically become their savior. Your initial instincts are: you’d wanna go out on a date or have sex etc lovey dovey.
It doesn’t seem that Nayeon doesn’t care for Noah.
She just doesn’t know the level of abuse that Noah’s going through.
Noah doesn’t ask for help or opens up about it.
So, naturally, Nayeon’s only focus right now is the desire aspect in their relationship.
And the theme of Noah and Nayeon’s interactions are based on attraction.
Don’t tell me that Noah doesn’t want Nayeon and doesn’t enjoy fucking her.
I'm not going to be bias and claim that Nayeon doesn't care for Noah at all, bc it is evident that she does. However, she does not perceive him in the way Dohye does (or did). We're just saying if we had to chose someone that would be a better fit for Noah it would be Dohye because their chemistry is far more organic. Dohye is so "head over heels" for Noah it becomes a running joke in the side story that Noah is always embarrassed about. Not to mention he had decided to wait and "earn" Noah by doing their relationship trial before actually beginning a relationship. He just does more things for Noah than Nayeon has ever or could ever do. It's not about gender either. Unfortunately, I think that is the case for many fans bc fujoshis make up the majority population in a fandom but at least I and (still) many others can comfortably say it isn't. There's a reason why the majority are for Dohye.
Trust me when I say I do strongly understand the fact that most female characters are criticized for being--well, female and I STRONGLY hate that as well. I mean, I am a female myself so of course it wouldn't sit well with me. Female characters are often used as the irritating obstacles in anime and comics and that just derives from Japanese and Korean culture. Times are changing(although very slowly) in all countries but women are basically seen as useless apart from giving birth. There are many men AND women that do not like female leading roles and least likely want to relate to female characters or indulge in a movie or story that was written by one. While considering these facts, I still cannot see Nayeon being the best fit for Noah IF compared by Dohye. Women should not be ashamed for having sexual feelings and acting upon them. But again, it's not about the gender. I mean it really isn't. Gender obviously doesn't matter to Noah he just loves who he loves, so that's why it doesn't matter here.
Also, considering your argument is "don't tell me that Noah doesn't enjoy fucking Nayeon" like ??what lmao is this a joke? Yeah, because that's TOTALLY why Nayeon is a better fit for Noah, because of their sex life. What are you, in middle school? YIKES. Like, c'mon dude grow up LMAOOOO. He was raped several times for pete's sake. You've lost all credibility at this point. SAD.
I guess maybe the author is to be blame on how they’re aligning the characters now.
I hope the author does try and redeem Nayeon’s character from her haters.
A majority of people not liking Nayeon based on the comment section is because she’s ‘useless’ or ‘dumb’ or ‘hoe’.
The only way to save Nayeon as a character is to turn her into a saviour messiah type that she suddenly solves the death/disappearance of Noahs mom and kills everyone that abused Noah with a samurai.
I’m glad to have had this discussion with you and how we both state our points without the need of caps lock or name calling.
Oh wow, this just flipped And now you're really going after me. I thought we were chill with each others viewpoint on this story.
Is Nayeon raping Noah? No. They're in a consensual relationship.
Just cuz a person is abused doesn't mean they can't fall in love and want a person sexually.
I'm no dude. i've had encountered being sexually harrassed on public train when I was a teen but I have a boyfriend and I want him to touch me. I dont think I'm sick for wanting that from him.
Noah likes her. Okay? Why does that seem a terrible thing? They like each other. She isn't forcing him in any way. They like doing it with each other.
I don't understand why you and everybody else is so opposed to the main couple.
Nayeon is no predator. Noah wants her. What is wrong with that?
He does need help yes he does and his adootive family needs to be in prison.
But dont forget the main narration of the story was Noah and Nayeon meeting amd being attracted to each other.
Literally WHEN did I say that Nayeon was a predator. I JUST fucking said that women should have sexual feelings without feeling ashamed about it. Don’t try to argue with someone and dismiss their claims. It’s disrespectful as fuck. Come back when you want to have an intellectual and mature conversation.
At this point, you’re just trying to argue with someone. You’re not worth my time.
Ugh and now you're saying im imature.
I thought we were having an intellectual discussion. But started calling me names. You called me a dude, a middleschooler. And that makes you mature?
I actually liked your prevous response but now they're like all rage.
You didn't say the word predator but you basically said that Nayeon wanting sex from Noah is not right. It's like you're putting her in line with Noah's abusers.
Why is that?
They're in a relationship, why would that be wrong?
Is it wrong for Nayeon to be attracted to Noah? Viceversa?
Noah is going through hell because of his shitty adoptive mom and sister but why is it bad for him to be in love with someone?
What does Nayeon have to do with Noah's family? Nothing.
The same with Dohye.
We just saw some chapters of how he was so gentle and understanding.
I don't see the difference with Nayeon. The same except she's more expressive with her lust.
If you're going to get offended by me calling you "DUDE" which is not the equivalent to a MALE. It means BRO and it is gender neutral it's like SoCal slang. It's literally teenager lingo but maybe you live in a country where you're not familiar with that ?? Anyways, you're obviously getting offended for no reason. I did not insinuate ANYTHING. If I did call Nayeon a predator then obviously, come at me because that IS wrong but I never insinuated any fucking thing. I do not think Nayeon as a bad person. For you to twist someone's words around IS immature and wrong. If you are going to claim something then properly do it, don't pick apart someone else's sentences and DON'T argue just for the sake of arguing. Immature people trolling on the internet do not receive my respect nor my time. Not to mention you are literally putting words in my mouth to make me seem like the bad guy. I am literally so unbias and it's so sad to see that people cannot be the same. I do pray that one day you will be able to grow up and have a mature conversation with someone online or in real life.
No one's fucking hinting at anything. NO ONE's putting Nayeon in line with abusers. You're literally just getting offended for stupid shit. At this point, you do not deserve any respect because you cannot even reciprocate respect back. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm losing brain cells just reading your responses. Just leave this be and understand that most people prefer Dohye over Noah for VALID reasons. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
There's a reason why yall are in the minority lmaooo
I said I was glad to have had an intellectual discussion with you. And ultimately realized that the author is to be blamed on creating this polarity between Nayeon and Dohye.
Maybe creating this rift between those 2 characters is part of the plot? Gt attention snd hype from reader? Idk.
But then suddenly after you’ve explained your side, you gave another comment that was like literally attacking me and no longer my view point. We can disagree on how we take the story just don’t tell someone they’re not smart for not having the same opinion. You suddenly wentbeserk when you read the part when I said Noah enjoys fucking Nayeon.
I guess I made you lose your patience because I just did not stop explaining my side.
I was just willing to elaborate my thoughts to the fullest.
To me, we weren't fighting. Just two people talking.
Until you started becoming angry.
Maybe you have an exam or have a presentation at work tomorrow but I had the time and energy to talk about this. If we were responding back through voice recording you would've got my tone and know that it's not domineering or shouting.
I'm sorry for ticking you off.
I don't hate you.
Maybe this whole manhwa is badly executed.
I thought I was finally gonna get a story about a female's exploration on sex and not be judged but then this suddenly become a crime drama yaoi. Obviously our female lead is now out of place. Completely irredeemable.
Have a good day, Kat.
Hope you buy or eat something nice today.
Hope you and your crush will bump into each other.
Yo, i'm tired of arguing with you so please stop responding to me, thanks. I did believe the way you lastly responded was very civil and I really appreciate that. However, I do not like that you've made assumptions like "maybe you had a bad day so that's probably why you're blowing up on me." No. I lost my patience with you and that's entirely your fault. It has NOTHING to do with Nayeon. It was because of YOU. Not NAYEON. For the last fucking time she's literally not on my mind.
Me: The way you're responding is immature
You: OMG!!! STOP ATTACKING NAYEON SHE DID NOTHING WRONG
Me: I- ??//???/???
Now, leave me alone and stop bothering other people with your supposed "mature" conversation. Stop attacking people simply because they do not agree with you. It's honestly sad.
Just ignore her. She thinks Nayeon is a saint. Shame she feels she needs to attack people for haing a different opinion. Even the author got emails about how Nayeon character is and she is quite flawed for this type of story
Maybe the reason why Ugetsu thinks he can't be happy just being with someone he loves(Aki), is because he was raised as a child prodigy. Maybe people who are born and raised as a 'natural genius' or 'gifted', think that they can't really find fulfillment/happiness outside of their goal. They're fixated on being the best or improving more and more to perfection.
To me that's sad.
Unlike our main characters who play music for their soul, maybe Ugetsu plays his violin because he's simply programmed to, like, that that's all what he knows.
sad? i'm not super arty or anything but i find art 100 times more important then ppl, so yeah what u said is true... but aki dragged him into this kind of place where love has many shapes other than violin , which he wants to get our from so give him some chapters, STILL he is also a human , if aki's love is what something he can't stop then...
Good points
I wish Ugetsu can realize that loving a person shouldn't stray or restrict him from his love of music.
As a person, you can love your job or hobby or talent/gifts and be great at it while still loving other things, like your parents, family, friends, lover...
I mean, you're right, we all are HUMAN and our fundamental nature is to LOVE.
And not necessarily romantic love, it can be any type of form that involves caring for other HUMANS.
ummm, not really ,cuz every one has his own love language, *there is a quiz for it online if u wanna check yours* , even if ugetsu realizes it, why should he go under it, what i'm saying is , it's what ugetsu TRULY wants , either man up and let go of aki or build a warm healthy relationship...
but in a way *and this is my pov* being on a relationship is a hindrance for work or art flow, aki said that ugetsu is a very flow-y and emotional person, so feeling loved messes up his artistic way of life? i really don't know since the boi only shows up in one chapter and goes in 10 different mind sets , let's wait him...
That's restrictive. Does someone have to be single to be a great artist?
Aren't there famous people who are creatives but have spouses and kids?
Writers, perfprmers, scientists, etc.
You can have both. Ugetsu can have both.
yeah there r, but not all fingers on your hand are the same tall...
sorry, hight*
It's like you're promoting an idea or a lifestyle that centers on purusit of 'greatness'.
Kind of like a monk or jedi. It's like an extremist thing.
To me, it's unrealistic and unnecessary.
You can have a boyfriend/girlfriend and graduate a valedictorian
You can be a loving parent and be a top executive.
You can choose to be single but it's not because you're sacrificing your love for a career.
That's what I'm pointing out.
There's no need for 'sacrificing'or giving up on something/someone.
It doesnt mean if you're in love you give up on your art or music or whatever creative outlet.
There's no need to give up or sacrifice.
You can have a lovelife and a career.
There's no need to live a life of isolation and push away or not care for people who come in to your life or who already are in it.
Fictional shounenai character Ugetsu can be a world class violinist and have a hot bassist boyfriend(Aki).
You can too, Be an artist and live in an apartment w/ 3 dogs and a cat and a girlfriend/boyfriend or be single and live with your bestfriend, whatever.
(=・ω・=)
did u read what i said? ppl r different, while uge wants his music , someone like u want a close person around AND *say music or anything*, all i'm saying that i understand what uge is thinking cuz this toxic relationship with aki is hurting him and u'll c in the next chapters, not only hurting him but also distracting him, uge can be a HSP and/or HCP and if u take sometime looking at his family history , u'll find that him pushing ppl away is a rather good move... it's like how it's for me, i like 2d characters , drawing them and seen them into a manga or anime feels more ok than the real world, these character can never hurt me, talk after me and stuff, so for uge, his music is where he is relaxed, and unhurt, so why would i ever want him to be dragged again with aki? and push him away again or feel uncomfortable around mugs? if aki and him solve this up and talk it real and honest then rebuilding their relationship on a love base not a *run away from my troubles* way like uge did , then and only then he can live in his apartment with 3 dogs and a cat with aki *which in not ganna happen if u read the next chapters*
All is true, I completely agree. But Ugetsu is just not like that, for me it shows that love requires greater strength. Though I didn't feel the other person was necessarily promoting anything particular, maybe she meant that such people also exists. He just made a choice, Aki or music?- for him it's music. And Aki is in love with music more than ugetsu, remember his thoughts?..he was drawn by ugetsu's sensuality, that he completely drowned himself into a puddle of muddy water. Why is he not happy then? It's still not clear, does he still wants to be with ugetsu? He sure sleeps with other men n women? venting it out? or it's just that he's afraid of letting go? or is he hoping things will change? doesn't look like that for ugetsu though. He thinks he needs ugetsu to feel worthy, while all he has to do is to give himself a chance to find something better for him, I don't mean a romantic partner here, but a chance to love himself. There's no point in changing ugetsu, but Aki is the one who has to take the next step. I don't like both these characters really.
wait, how is he thinking of uge well being if *physical violence* is involved?
Sorry,I did not understand your question
'bout aki n ugetsu, * He thinks he needs ugetsu to feel worthy* is what u said, suggesting that aki wants uge to feel better about him self, but the physical violence u talked about in the upcoming chapters....? there is a different in his thought and actions , this is what i'm asking...
No I meant for aki to feel worthy, . They are already contradicting their words with their actions if you really see. Uhmm idk why I'm still investing my energy here haha. You'll see in the coming chapters what happens, there will be a lot of change in the views that time ,as usual to every bl chapter update
oh sorry, my mistake, thought u talked 'bout uge, and yeah will be waiting on needles ><
“What do you do when you like someone but they keep breaking your heart?” Damn! I felt that!