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We need more then that a whole nother Manga of them getting beat up ಠ益ಠ

I hope not! The king don’t see him in way anyways.

THANKS YOU

Soo CLEARLY loves being manhandled by Taesung. If you’d pay attention to his thoughts, expression, and stop trying to whine about a hard-kink erotica being too much for you, then you’d see that Soo is purposefully being a brat to get Taesung’s attention. And he is overwhelmed with how good it feels to be choked and treated roughly and thinks he shouldn’t be into it when he knows he is.

Soo is a straight up masochist, Taesung knows this and there’s always aftercare on his part. He’s resisting Taesung to make him mad and save face because he got jealous.

Soo 100% wants it. It’s clear to the fans who actually pay attention.

Oh please stop it.. He may be a masochist or whatnot and he may end up enjoying it later BUT his intention isn't to be treated that way nor is he purposely annoying Taesung so as to be treated that way.. Don't twist this into something that isn't even true.. Wtf.. He got angry at Taesung cos he was jealous and he didn't wanna see his face for that fact not because he was trying to be a lil bitch looking to be mishandled.. And Taesung was obviously trying to punish him not indulge his masochistic tendencies or whatever it is you think he's got.. Wtf.. If you clearly read through and used your head a little you'd realize this simple fact

I think so too. I think many readers have this super extremist way of looking at consent, that they don't realize there's different ways people fuck, and not every time it's needed a vocal consent.
Also, he's super masochist and I agree with you he's surprised he's enjoying it that much (fuck, as a sub masochist myself I feel him so much).
It's taesun that confuse me the most and his intentions... (not sex related)

Anyway, aftercare is important and our uke is getting it right.

Also, there's going to be different views and opinions about this subject, and also perspective that can change due to different culture/morality/faith, but let's all be polite when discussing. (clearly I'm addressing the comment below yours, hun)

Facts are facts, Soo wants Taesung to punish him cause it puts him in the spotlight of his attention. His thoughts support that fact and his submission does too. Taesung 100% knows he’s a masochist, and punishes him BECAUSE Soo likes to put on a front that he doesn’t like it—but you can clearly tell from his ahegao face and thoughts that he likes it.

And this is also a hard-kink erotica not meant for people with a weak tolerance. If it makes you uncomfortable, don't read it, cause the people who like it really don’t care about the people who whine about not being able to handle it. Go read a wholesome shounen-ai.

Preacheヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

They’re broken records.

its literally written in the bio what's this manwha is about (violence/gore) and it's intended for MATURE audiences.
Are they really expecting a mafia lord to be all smuchy and cute to the uke? a romantic love story?
honestly, i feel like this needs more rope and toys.

Even Soo can get annoyed and mad and thats exactly what happened he saw Taesung with a girl and got jealous, he left to visit his uncle and found out that maybe his father found out where he was and as a result he got even more mad and Taesung calling didn't help and it was REALLY REALLY REALLY clear that he didn't wanna see Taesung at that time which is exactly why he left in the first place.

He was purposefully ignoring Taesung BECAUSE he was annoyed not because he wanted to get punished plus that choking kink was literally just introduced to us and he wasn't always a "masochist" because he left his old boyfriend (cant remember his name sorry) because of how he was being treated he was already getting hit but he wasnt getting turned on same with the first time they both met, Soo never got turned on when he was being beat up by Taesung.

The way you view Soo as some sort of masochist person who loves sex is really affecting on Soo's actual character just because you saw Soo getting turned on by choking automatically you labelled him as someone who cant live without sex. Like what I just said even Soo can get mad and annoyed even when that is presented right infront of you, because of how you view him you automatically think that Soo is doing it for sex when in reality he's just actually genuinley annoyed. And he doesnt always love to get manhandled he cherished the moments he had when they just spent time together he literally gets flustered and blushes of the thought of spending time with Taesung.

OHHH yes, preach.

finally a whole ass "discussion"
where people arent bitching about fictional man fucking hardcore
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Right? People who can’t handle hardcore fucking always gotta bitch about it ‘being too scarweee’.

The fact is that soo was not always like this. He is starting to have these type of sexual desires and mental health, for all that he has gone through. Including the things taesung put him through. The doctor himself conmfirmed all of this and said, it would be best for soo to get away freom taesung. Soo is a victim in all of this. Of course not every story has to be vanilla and lovely dovey. The tags say there is rape and violence and that is ok. Nobody is saying people can't read stuff like this and like it. But just because it is a manga involving mafia, it won't change the meaning of rape and abuse. But let's call a spade a spade. Rape and abuse can't be justified. We can all read and enjoy the story for what it is. A toxic relationship where there is no power balance between the couple. That is all that this story is so far.

Not every story has to be vanilla and lovely dovey. The tags say there is rape and violence and that is ok. Nobody is saying people can't read stuff like this and like it. But just because it is a manga involving mafia, it won't change the meaning of rape and abuse. But let's call a spade a spade. Rape and abuse can't be justified. We can all read and enjoy the story for what it is. A toxic relationship where there is no power balance between the couple. That is all that this story is so far. And we can all express our opinion about it.

as a masochist myself, we can clearly see that their relationship is toxic and soo-young didn't ask for it. you sound like a rapist saying that. yeah soo-young midway or later on may realize he enjoyed the more hard-core aspects during sex but, there was still no clear consent and established boundaries. in this chapter tae-sung started choking him and soo-young never consented to that beforehand or told him he was into that.(doesn't matter if he enjoyed it there was still no clear line of consent) in bdsm, there is an established line of boundaries and consent is so important. you can be the most hardcore masochist out there, but that doesn't mean we are going to pretend their dynamic isn't toxic and sets false expectations. I enjoy this bl and will keep reading it. I like the more psychological, horror, aspect to it and knew what I was getting into when reading it. that being said, I still won't act like soo-young hasn't been raped multiple times and "asked for it".

Thank you.. This is exactly what I'm trying to say.. Like yes I like the story, I believe it's well written and I believe the author wrote it precisely in this way so readers can criticize the characters and anticipate their development. The fact that we're calling out the rape does not make it any less of a well written plot nor does the fact that it's a good story miraculously excuses Taesung being a total asswipe... Stories like these are written as a slice of life, to show a type of reality but that doesn't mean readers can't voice their criticism of the characters. This is the point I want them to understand.. It's not the plot we're criticizing but the characters in it.. For example, I enjoyed "IT" but hated the clown to bits, but the story will be meaningless without the clown.. So there.. Thanks for explaining it to those idiots trying to shut people up from speaking their opinions..

exactly, they keep thinking we are too sensitive or can't handle it so go read "shounen ai" and that's not even are point?? we just are going to sugarcoat rape and downplay since its fictional. that being said, does it mean we hate the story? no. but we are allowed to dislike a character. and you're welcome lmao.

I meant we aren't going to sugarcoat it lmao

YES ITS SO ANNOYING. I WANT THAT BLONDE GUY GONE HE GIVES ME BAD VIBES. Plus kissing him like twice without consent wtf.

Literally still waiting for that apology to nakyum for all that trauma he made him go through

I don't find him attractive for getting consent. I'm just happy that we are seeing some type of development

uhhh yes it does read it !!

Preach. Preach x100. Facts mf

Bro you've been replying to all my comments I fckn love you man

Are you a male or female?
I was gonna say No homo but it would be offensive knowing I’m a fudanshi and reading smut BLs...
What I said felt offensive — ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Male

Understandable. Never thought I’d meet another fudanshi, sorry.

No its ok no need to apologize

This is some good fudanshi friendship , peace mates

yup im dissapointed i think im gonna drop this

The only reason why I didnt drop this a while ago was because Yeonwoo was a bad bleep like when he tried ruining keiths life by running away gave me so much life but then he failed and I thought he was gonna try again because you know keith raped him but NO he literally said "wait I mean I got raped by keith twice and as a result I have to carry his child but I love him