YOU COCK BLOCKING PIECE OF SHIT!!! ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT THEY WERE DOING OMFGGGGG!! BITCH! HATE YOU YAHWI
lmaooo
I was hoping they would be able to communicate with one another and clear up any miscommunication but instead he raped him
Honestly, this is rape. Yohan doing this is rape. The other guy (I don’t remember his name) also kinda raped him bc our mc was drunk. This whole yaoi is filled with rape. If you don’t think this is rape then you are the problem. I have no problem explaining why it’s rape if you don’t understand, all you need to know is that this is rape.
This time it isn’t rape because he consented idk what you mean?
I mean a lot of other manhwas have this type of plot idk why people are so against this one here
it's not rape he said yes lilterly
*literally
If you don't like this why you are reading.. Just stop and find something you like... If you can't appreciate author's hard work and take fiction seriously then you shouldn't read this kinda thing...
I agree it's rape in many ways. It's sad seeing how people are trying to change this around to "it's just a tory, or he consented". no, he consented to sex, not this bullcrap.
Im not saying I don’t like the story, I’m saying that this is rape. It’s rape bc even tho he agreed to it, he only did that bc Yohan insisted and guilt tripped him. Go back to the previous chapter and read when yohan asked to have sex, mc said no. He said no until Yohan started talking and saying things to try to convince mc. If mc didn’t want to from the Beginning and only agreed once Yohan started talking, that’s not consent. That’s guilt tripping into sex. You guys are crazy if you think that this isn’t rape. And even if you think it isn’t rape, you should see something wrong with it. It’s disgusting how you guys all just ignore the fact that this isn’t right. I’m not saying the author is a bad writer, trust me I love their work, I just don’t like how people think that this isn’t rape when clearly it is. Even if he “consented” to sex like you guys are saying, he didn’t agree to all those sex toys. It’s utter nonsense and bullshit. Alex is the only reasonable person here bc the rest of you are nuts. You guys are disgusting if you rlly don’t find ANTHING wrong with this.
that's what im saying consent is not present in the story clearly and fimly.
Exactly, these people think I’m out to get their favorite yaoi but I’m not. I love this yaoi up to the point where they are not clearing up consent and guilt tripping the mc. They know mc is gullible and they use that as a way to use him. I don’t have a problem with the yaoi (besides that fact), I have a problem with the people who don’t think this is rape or don’t find anything wrong with this. It’s disgusting and ignorant and honestly quite sad.
Yeah but I think I'm done with this story. these actions are starting to become too much for me and there are putting me in a negative headspace. I don't like it, but I do like the art skills and the writing that the author has given for the most part. it looked like a good story at the beginning but it started to go downhill for me. (the lack of consent, communication, trust)
Honestly, as much as I do love the story I’m going to give it a break. I’m also tired of all the nonsense. If it doesn’t improve within the next few chapters I’m honestly done. I don’t like the lack of emotional interaction. It’s stupid and weird.
I’m at least glad that someone else has the proper common knowledge to realize that this is not right. Everyone else is ignorant and think “oh isn’t rape Bc he agreed
yeah it's disheartening to see ppl react and think these actions are ok, but I personally I can't see myself waiting for a change in the story it's lost my interest.
Yeah I understand I hope you find something else that doesn’t put you in a bad mental state. Much love <3
Honestly they said that for the same reason you made this comment! People like sharing their opinions and ofc stuff like rape shouldn’t be normalised so ofc they’re gonna say something if they think it’s rape.. EVEN THO ITS NOT RAPE I disagree with their comment but also urs
Ever heard about roleplay or kink.. It's people's preference... Some people act as if they are rapping or being raped... This seen like this don't take it seriously.. It's not like im supporting those people who rape .. But this is totally different thing you have to understand difference between them... If you don't trust me you can search it up on google..
I'm not supporting rape or normalizing it... Bcz I know how it feels to sexual harassed I felt it myself... But they are just not understanding the situation... It is not rape... But raping is definitely a serious crime and punishable..
Now this just isn’t right. Wtf is wrong with you. What the fuck are you talking about. I understand people’s preferences but rape being a kink? What the fuck. Although you said you don’t support people who rape you clearly don’t understand. Using those sex toys (which ik is a kink and role play) is acceptable as long as the other person also agrees. The Mc didn’t agree to sex toys, therefor that isn’t consent. You justify that people have preferences but when did Yohan EVER mention anything like “is it okay if I use sex toys?”.
Did he say that? Did I miss something?
It’s crazy how you try to justify the lack of consent with pure “preference”
Listen. I have been sexually assaulted even as young as 7. I know about these types of things. If you don’t think it’s rape then what is it? Cause it SURELY is NOT consent. Guilt tripping into having sex is consent? Using sex toys without permission is consent? When did that become consent?
Let me put it in a way you might understand.
Let’s say i offer you a cupcake. It’s ugly and smells bad. You say you don’t want it. I tell you “why not? It tastes good. You’re hurting my feelings. You will love it I promise!”. I say those types of things up to the point when you finally say yes still a bit hesitant. Once you take the cupcake and bite into it, I then tell you, “oh, it has dog piss in it.” You didn’t taste the dog pee but still yelled at me and asked why I didn’t tell you. I say “it’s okay it’s still tasty right?” You don’t taste pee and only taste sugar and sweet chocolate, even so, it doesn’t mean it’s okay for me to not tell you that it had pee before you ate it.
That is the exact situation that is happening right now just in a different format. It isn’t right that I pressured you into eating the cupcake even if you didn’t want to, and it isn’t okay for me to not have told you it had dog piss in it before you ate it. Therefor, IT IS NOT, I REPEAT, IT IS NOT okay for yohan to have done that.
I know you understand rape is bad but I’m trying to make you understand how this (even if it “ isn’t rape” like you said) still is wrong and disgusting.
Did yohan stopped him no... His leg was not tied up he always can kicked him of or push him of when his hyung untied him no... How can you explain that... And I'm not even talking about Characters I'm saying to appreciate authors work.. Who's working hard and it is a fiction created by the author if it's their intention to show case this scene as rape there should be a warning but it's not there it means their intention is not promoting the rape.. I don't understand why are you dragging the characters here.. It's totally something coming out from someone's head.. It's not reality.. If it was a reality I was definitely going against the action.. You have to keep reality and imagination apart...
It being a story has nothing to do with the fact it isn’t right. The most likely reason the mc didn’t stop him was bc he thought he had to since yohan had told him it would help to stop having feelings for the other love interest. I appreciate the authors work, I really do, but this should have been brought out in a more consensual way. This, although you don’t wanna realize, isn’t full consent if not consent at all. If you are to justify “just because it’s fiction” to scenarios that include very triggering things, you aren’t right in your head. I get it’s fiction but the author should have made it a much more consensual way than having yohan guilt trip the mc knowing mc is gullible. It would have been better if they would have just made it so that the mc WANTED to have sex and felt READY to have sex. Not convincing him INTO having sex. You get the different wording here?
WANTING to and convinced INTO having sex are two very different things. If you agree what yohan did was correct then you are disgusting. At least have some decency to be able to say “you know what, yohan was wrong. He shouldn’t have done that” instead of trying to put the blame on one things which is “because it’s fiction”.
Please answer me when I said this. Tell me if my example at least helped you understand my view point. Cause I want you to know that this isn’t right even if it’s fiction and ESPECIALLY if it isn’t fiction.
Oh I understand it very well... I have been sexually harassed by my own family member, friend and even strangers and I was as young as you that time too... Do you know how it feels when you don't know who to believe or not.. I can't even tell my mom I didn't know how to tell... I ever harassed by my boss as well so don't give me that... From childhood I faced this kind of things too many times... I know how disgusting it feels... You know everytime something like this happened with me I feel like ripping my skin of off my body... It's more horrific and disgusting then the imagination...
Because of this things happened with us doesn't mean we will go around say even little push or force as rape.. We don't do that.. Don't offend yourself I know it's not easy but just try to use you words in right place.. This is not a place to protest against this things when most of the stories belongs to this kind of content...
Did I ever said yohan was right... I never said that.. And you don't have any right to tell me im disgusting or not... You don't have any right to judge others... So mind your language... If someone is triggered they'll quite this as soon as possible not going to read farther... They're not going to claim to like this story which is Triggering them... Please be reasonable...
I’m very sorry you had to go through that. No one should have to experience that. If you are telling me this bc I said “I understand it very well” I didn’t mean it as in you didn’t know what it felt like. Even so, as someone who had been assaulted as well, by my uncle when I was 7, by my classmates when I was just in middle school, and have had much worse things happen to me that I would rather not speak of here, I do not in any way want you to think I meant what I said as you not understanding. But even so, I’m trying to justify the word consent and why it is important in that paragraph I wrote. Please go back at read the rest I said because I want you to understand why I think it is rape.
Again, I didn’t mean to offend you. If you read I said “IF”. Like you said, you never cleared up if you supported me hay yohan did as right or wrong which is why I said that just in case you did. I didn’t mean it in a disrespectful way and I would never want anyone thinking anything bad about what I comment unless it is a statement
I know I can feel you and it's normal for you to talk against this story... And It was also my uncle who claim in front of other members that im his daughter and all but did those nasty thing in alone it's so terrifying.. And you are correct in your place.. I totally agree.. But this is kind of different... That's what I trying to say it's look like rape indeed but it's not in some way... But let's just forget about this.. We shouldn't fighting over this...
I don't want to sound like I'm attacking you but, listen to yourself you called it (RAPE). just like we are saying it's rape yes the author didn't put a warning bc they might not see this as rape but it is to some ppl. All we are doing in the comments are talking about how the characters actions have made us feel and how we are seeing the characters in their true colors. the thing about all situations is that there are many different interpretations of what might be happening, you might see two ppl having sex and its all fine. I see and what others have seen is that this is rape. You victim blame the character by saying that if he didn't want this he would have kicked or pushed him away with his feet. That's a messed-up way of thinking if I do say so myself. In those types of situations in real life, you can have ppl that feeze and allow the action to happen to them. Will, you tell them to their faces that they wanted the action to happen. No, you wouldn't you would agree and support them because you know what happens to them was wrong. I know you said if this was real you wouldn't support it, but no one is saying they don't support the characters we just don't like their actions at the moment. Yes, the author didn't see it as rape or wrote it as such but, the vast majority of the readers that are here supporting are seeing it in one way. Which can happen in any situation,.Rape is rape and if you feel like you've been rape then that's what happen ppl like you are the reason that rape victims keep their stories to themselves and why rapist are able to find more victims. please next time you want to comment on a harsh and strong subject make sure you're not putting down one side over the other
Yeah you’re right we should just stop arguing about this. I shouldn’t have been so harsh with talking to everyone like that. It’s just a very sore subject for me. I apologize: )
thank you
yes, that's called CNC (consent no consent), which is still discussed and talked about between all parties that are involved. that did not happen here from what we are being shown.
sadly yes this is something that happens and when done right it can be fun and something that makes the sex better are more exciting. It's called Consent no Consent. And like you said it's discussed by the parties that are involved.
Yeah as long as they are both okay with it then it’s alright but i still don’t see it as right :/ it’s alright tho
same and i hope my words weren't too harsh on you, I just hate having this topic being misconstrued and seeing ppl arguing about a sensitive topic that happens to ppl every day.
yeah it may sound bad but when its done properly it is nice and both ppl can have fun. it just needs to be done under the umbrella of consent.
Yeah I get it thanks :)
YALL IT TAKES (tmi ahead) A LOT TO TURN ME ON OR GIVE ME BUTTERFLIES IN MY STOMACH AND THIS JUST GAVE ME BOTH! ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄ (Sorry if this was tmi I’m just excited)
Does anyone have the raws it’s okay if not (￣∇￣")
Thank youuuu ヾ(☆▽☆)
I’m done with this, the author is very talented but I hate this. I can’t stand the miscommunication and how Jooin is a little bitch. The only rational person here is Cain and all they do is push him away. I know Yahwi is endgame so I don’t even bother anymore. Cain, you deserve sm better. Bye.
Btw I meant Jooin is a little bitch bc he won’t get his shit together and blankly tell Yahwi to stop bothering him and to shut the fuck up since it rlly isn’t any of his business what Jooin is doing with his life.
yahwi: *force himself to jooin* *is being asshole* *hurts jooin a million times*
jooin: *is blushing* LMAO
I KNOW!! THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME SO MAD! HE IS SUCH A LITTLE BITCH! STAND UP FOR YOURSELF AND STOP BLUSHING LIKE WTF