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I don't know why you are fighting so much in the comments saying "taku is the worst" lol ...

Lotto December 7, 2020 10:59 am

I don't know why you are fighting so much in the comments saying "taku is the worst" lol

The three characters are so toxic, each one has their things that make them worse than the others. Taku and hesso are using each other, and Taku and Jowoon are at the same level of toxicity so I don't see any characteristics in any of the three that makes me think that one of them has reason to end up in a normal and happy relationship. But don’t get me wrong I think they all deserve a second chance but none of them together

And the comments of "seeing taku cry is my fantasy" you are a little sick if you think that seeing someone cry for love is nice xd

Responses
    Ashika December 7, 2020 11:15 am

    I have to disagree with you
    Say that Taku and joowon are the same level of toxicity is wrong
    Yes joowon makes some mistakes in the past, but not anymore, so.. yes you can say he was « toxic »in the past, but now he is mature and he have the biggest development
    what we reproach to taku, is his selfishness, his way of using people by manipulating their feelings...
    now there is nothing to reproach to joowon and
    I don’t know if you read the raw but now even Heasoo, who was very selfish try to do his best fort taku and joowon
    The only character who hasn't changed it's taku
    And after all the childish comments on joowon, 2-3 comments on taku won't hurt him

    minutta December 7, 2020 11:33 am

    Hello! It's me, the one with a Taku crying fantasy </3 First of all, he ain't real, so I couldn't care less that you think I am "sick". Second of all, he brought this on himself, so sorry for my lack of empathy. Third of all, stop denying the fact that Taku hasn't changed at all in three seasons, he's the same self-absorbed, manipulative piece of shit that likes to see Haesoo upset. Give me a reason why he deserves a happy ending. Don't give me the "he's experiencing love for the first time give him a break" when he doesn't even care about Haesoo's feelings if they don't involve him. I'll wait.

    Lastly but not least, don't do Joowon dirty by saying: "Taku and Jowoon are at the same level of toxicity" when he's the only one with proper character development. He's learned to put Haesoo's wishes first, respect his decisions, and take his leave if that meant the one he loves is happy. He's never been happy about Haesoo modeling for Taku, yet he congratulated him, intended on going to the exhibition to show his support despite having the media on his back. What did Taku do? Throw a fit whenever Haesoo went to see Joowon. So cool of him! A real angel.

    If there's someone that deserves a happy ending, it's Joowon, and if that happy ending means Haesoo SO BE IT.

    minutta December 7, 2020 11:47 am
    Hello! It's me, the one with a Taku crying fantasy </3 First of all, he ain't real, so I couldn't care less that you think I am "sick". Second of all, he brought this on himself, so sorry for my lack of empa... minutta

    *stop denying the fact that Taku HAS changed

    Lotto December 7, 2020 12:01 pm
    I have to disagree with you Say that Taku and joowon are the same level of toxicity is wrongYes joowon makes some mistakes in the past, but not anymore, so.. yes you can say he was « toxic »in the past, but... Ashika

    The three characters have been created with a purpose, to symbolize something. I'm going to leave H aside because I think his character is understood by all of us, now let's look at Taku, his character is to represent what he did in the past, that is, to use people without any feelings because he had never fallen in love, Now that he has discovered what true love is, he is doing everything possible to stay with it because he had not felt it before, obviously that makes him become a toxic and manipulative person, what does all this mean? that no matter how much he fights for H, he will never stay with him, because H is not the love he seeks.

    Now let's talk about Jowoon, obviously this character has never been a little angel and he already started very badly from the beginning and it has been shown that he is a toxic and very careful manipulator, it happens that his character is the opposite of taku's, he already has experienced falling in love, it is simply that he has not known how to express it, we know that he has changed and that he is now more mature but he has not changed with Haesso, he changed alone yes so we will never know if as a couple they can work.

    Conclusion, if you realize taku at the beginning he represented himself as someone good to end up being someone bad, that is, the opposite that happened to us with Jowoon. So yes, the two have changed the only difference is that one has changed to something good and the other to something bad, so I emphasize that both were at that level of toxicity because they are.

    And I don't know where you get that 2 or 3 bad comments are fine when the comment section is full of insults towards taku xd

    minutta December 7, 2020 12:01 pm
    *stop denying the fact that Taku HAS changed minutta

    ?? smh im dumb i was right the first time

    Ashika December 7, 2020 12:18 pm
    The three characters have been created with a purpose, to symbolize something. I'm going to leave H aside because I think his character is understood by all of us, now let's look at Taku, his character is to re... Lotto

    Omg.... nonnnnnn pas ça, here we go again, with someone still stuck in season 1 please
    when everything with joowon was about Heasoo POV
    Joowon never been a little angel, huh he is the most precious in the story, the only one who REALLY care about Heasoo more than anything
    All he did was for protect heasoo, yes sometimes it’s was bad
    manipulator ... ? I’m no going to argument about that’s
    He changed for heasoo you can’t deny that’s, Heasoo and joowon are both grew up, They can be together now, because the know they can’t leave without each other and they want to be together
    full of insultes towards Taku ? You haven't been here for a long time, haven't you? ooof, in two weeks all the taku Stan are going to cry here, it’s going to be full of insulte about joowon and heasoo
    Taku never been good, from the beginning to the end,
    that he discovers love for the first time, does not excuse his manipulation
    The only manipulator is taku, that’s sad to no see that, a few taku Stan know that, you have to accept too ^^

    Lotto December 7, 2020 12:20 pm
    Hello! It's me, the one with a Taku crying fantasy </3 First of all, he ain't real, so I couldn't care less that you think I am "sick". Second of all, he brought this on himself, so sorry for my lack of empa... minutta

    wtf, is your reading comprehension good?

    You are so obsessed with Taku that you don't seem to understand anything you read. Where the hell did I say that taku deserves a happy ending? Girl get off the cloud of love in which you adore Jowoon because it is not good for you.

    Taku has changed, but has changed to something bad for the simple fact that he has never fallen in love and does not know what to do to stay with that person, obviously it does not matter what he does because H is never going to stay with him, besides that he deserves it. So don't give me the "tell me a reason why He deserve a happy ending" nonsense because I haven't put that anywhere, I said that he deserves a second chance alone, separate from H and J.

    About Jowoon, you take everything related to this man very seriously simply because he has realized that H is the love of his life and he wants to see him happy, isn't that the point? I don't care if you give me that bullshit as an example, that if "Jowoon didn't want H to model" What are you telling me, don't you see the toxicity there? Why would it bother he that a person who is not your partner shows his body? He is still a possessive person no matter how much he has changed for the better. But yes I admit that his character really is the only one who has changed to something good, so he deserves that second chance to be with someone.

    He is toxic whether you like it or not, that you see him as the best character is your opinion. That seems good to him, because he really is the only one who has changed in a positive way, but already there to see taku as a super villain is something rare xd, Taku is the stone that Jowoon needed to change so thank him.

    Lotto December 7, 2020 12:27 pm
    Omg.... nonnnnnn pas ça, here we go again, with someone still stuck in season 1 please when everything with joowon was about Heasoo POVJoowon never been a little angel, huh he is the most precious in the stor... Ashika

    And you don’t What to se thing like they are. Taku is manipulative like Jowoon was. HE CHANGED YES but he still be toxic.

    You for sure adores Jowoon a lot because he now is a “good” person and don’t want to see what really is happening.

    I don’t hate anyone in this history, but the three of them are wrong looking it how you look. He just changed because Haesoo made him change, he for himself didn’t see any problem, so plis he an ángel? Pfff I’m of

    Ashika December 7, 2020 12:34 pm

    « He still be toxic » just your sentence is wrong lmao, if he changes, that’s mean he is not toxic anymore bref bref bref,
    No no I don’t « adore » joowon NOW because he is a good person, I always like him
    Anyways I think your are just stuck in your opinion and you don’t want to accept the fact that joowon is not toxic anymore
    Yes The 3 of them were wrong, but Joowon and Heasoo try do to do their best, which your beloved Taku doesn't even try
    Have a good day, I don’t want to talk with someone close-minded bye

    minutta December 7, 2020 12:57 pm
    wtf, is your reading comprehension good?You are so obsessed with Taku that you don't seem to understand anything you read. Where the hell did I say that taku deserves a happy ending? Girl get off the cloud of l... Lotto

    When I told you to give me a reason why he deserves a happy ending, it had nothing to do with your initial comment. If it seemed that way, then I am sorry. What I was trying to get across is this: WHY do you think Taku deserves a second chance when he did nothing to earn that. To me, that is a happy ending because it would mean he'd get exactly what he wants now: love. Maybe my choice of words wasn't the best and my message wasn't clear enough. Sorry about that.

    Agree to disagree, though. We probably won't see his development after Haesoo and Joowon get together and as of now, to me, it doesn't seem like he deserves another chance. As you said, love just made him change for the worst. If I don't see him repent and acknowledge that his premise was fucked up for the get-go, then he shouldn't get into another relationship. Just my two cents, you don't have to agree with me.

    I already said why Joowon was against Haesoo modeling for Taku. Maybe he was jealous, but then again, he had a push and pull relationship with Haesoo, so it's not that surprising. Let's not forget the fact that he was against it because he never wanted Haesoo to be hurt. Haesoo never liked to be in front of the camera after all. That along with the fact that Taku had a bad reputation of throwing away his models after he got what he wanted from them was enough to make Joowon worry, but that doesn't fit the "Joowon is so toxic uwu he's a possessive prick", so we'll just ignore it.

    I'm not saying Joowon is perfect or that he hasn't been toxic in the past, but if you put him and Taku next to each other then it's clear who's the better one. So no, you can't say they have the same level of toxicity.

    And yes, I am grateful for Taku being what Joowon needed to open his eyes. He's a plot device after all. That was his whole point in the story.

    Lotto December 7, 2020 3:01 pm
    When I told you to give me a reason why he deserves a happy ending, it had nothing to do with your initial comment. If it seemed that way, then I am sorry. What I was trying to get across is this: WHY do you th... minutta

    Now I’m agreeing with you. I saw taku like the device so what happen to him is irrelevant, but making him the only bad character is wrong when they all are.

    I may not empathize al lot with Jowoon but y understand what is you point on defending his behavior, like I said I agree that he changed a lot and he have a very good development but I really thing that Heasso is not for him either, because the two of them have a lot to learn. But we’ll, maybe any of us know what the point of their history is.

    Back to Taku, I said that he maybe can have a second change because his the first time that he experienced love so we are not going to be hypocrite, like he can change too and he can be with another person and be happy. Haesso was like him, playing with people and when they fell in love o he got bored bye bye, Jowoon was also manipulative and if the two of them could change that means that taku to.

    So let the stone leave alone of this history because the main characters now are in good terms.

    And maybe I expresated myself wrong when I said that the two of them are in the same level of toxic, I wanted to express that before and now they have diferent behavior to express they love to H, but this behavior is wrong

    Lotto December 7, 2020 3:17 pm
    « He still be toxic » just your sentence is wrong lmao, if he changes, that’s mean he is not toxic anymore bref bref bref, No no I don’t « adore » joowon NOW because he is a good person, I always ... Ashika

    The close minded are you, you liked Jowoon whe he was a little manipulative shit and that’s shows why you don’t What to see that he is not good either.

    Say to me that he saw the problem and that he decided too change for himself not for Haesso or for taku. You can’t.

    He have a lot to learn, because he has a lot of wrong behavior toward Haesso now, maybe the thing that he do seems good thing because he wants to protect Haesso but he is being jealous and possessive toward someone who is not his partner.

    You may see him like the poor thing that is in love but he, like the others characters need too learn something.

    When I said that they are at the same level of toxicity I sad that because obviously Taku is a little shit with his behavior toward Haesso, but Jowoon isn’t doing it good either, he has to let Haesso go and he isn’t doing that.

    minutta December 7, 2020 3:22 pm
    Now I’m agreeing with you. I saw taku like the device so what happen to him is irrelevant, but making him the only bad character is wrong when they all are. I may not empathize al lot with Jowoon but y unders... Lotto

    I agree with you on one point - I think that Taku's development will happen after he experiences his first heartbreak, so he'll deserve a second chance after he learns that what he did was not okay. Giving people power over your happiness and manipulating situations to get you what you want is bound to get you hurt one day. Haesoo told him the same thing, but he was too arrogant to believe him because no one ever made him cry before. So yeah, he can change and become a better person, but defending him right now and trying to make him the good guy right now just ain't it.

    They all have their flaws, I think that's the best part of this story. But this tendency to make Taku this person that did nothing wrong and is somehow more deserving of having Haesoo is too much. He did nothing to deserve this type of treatment, but then again, I am not his biggest fan so maybe I am a bit biased. I can't see the hype surrounding him, he did nothing to redeem himself yet.

    Ashika December 7, 2020 3:44 pm
    The close minded are you, you liked Jowoon whe he was a little manipulative shit and that’s shows why you don’t What to see that he is not good either. Say to me that he saw the problem and that he decided ... Lotto

    I’m not close minded dude, it’s just when you say that’s joowon has the same level of toxicity to taku or heasoo, I can’t accept that,
    when he his the first who realize his mistakes, try to fixe them, to stay away from the man he loves to become mature, and try to let him go
    Did you forget that’s they were madly in love still 10 years, that’s not easy to leave someone after 10 years
    At the beginning joowon his described as the most manipulator because it’s was Heasoo POV, we can say the same for heasoo about joowon ?
    Heasoo liked to make joowon like that...
    Yes joowon was possessive with Heasoo but just with taku, he always let him sleep with whomever he wanted, in the first chapters you can see it: /
    I don’t want to argue with you, anyways
    We can all have different opinion, that’s not the problem just don’t put all the blame on joowon

    Lotto December 7, 2020 3:45 pm
    I agree with you on one point - I think that Taku's development will happen after he experiences his first heartbreak, so he'll deserve a second chance after he learns that what he did was not okay. Giving peop... minutta

    Exactly, it's the same thing I wanted to express.

    Honestly, what I can't stand is people defend any of the characters when none of them is right, so it's not just because of Taku but because the rest are not good either. I understand people that pithy him, he is being clumsy with is first love but he now have to suffer to really understand what love means, so is his time to say good bye because Haesoo is not good for him and Taku is nos good for Haesso.

    Honestly, if people have not understood that Taku is only a stone in the way and that obviously he is not going to stay with Haesso because it is not the time and he has to suffer is developed like the other characters I What to ask them to read the story again.

    Lotto December 7, 2020 4:05 pm
    I’m not close minded dude, it’s just when you say that’s joowon has the same level of toxicity to taku or heasoo, I can’t accept that, when he his the first who realize his mistakes, try to fixe them, t... Ashika

    Can you read again the first comentar that I posted and said to me were I blamed Jowoon?

    Jowoon didn’t realize his problem he changed because of Haesso and because of Taku, and that is like that because Taku is only a stone in this history for Jowoon to realize that he is losing his firs love.

    I am not blaming Jowoon, I am saying that the 3 of them are bad and wrong, they lived 10 years in a fucking toxic relationship and you thing that Jowoon realizing that him doing one or two things bad is the maximum of development that he need? Lol

    I mean why are you defending him with al of your heart when he himself said that he was and asshole? He did bad, like Haesso so the two of them are toxic, Haesso was the first one that wanted to stope that relationship that they were having. And he “didn’t let him sleep with people” they weren’t in a relationship so Haesso could do whatever he wanted, the two of them were playing with fire because they were scared to exprese love, so they became toxic with each other, they were using themself, etc. So when Jowoon saw that Haesso was real about to stopping and wanted to tray with Taku HE realized that he did wrong. So yeah we can’t have diferent opinions but Jowoon has blame like the others characters.

    I blaming the two of them, Taku was there like a stone only for these 2 to realize there love so he did his work.

    Ashika December 7, 2020 4:14 pm

    Yes joowon did some bad things, he’s not an innocent, he make a LOOOOT of mistakes too, I already say it in my comment :/
    Let’s stop the discussion here

    Ashika December 7, 2020 4:18 pm

    We can’t be agree with everything, and it’s completely okay, thank you for giving your opinion
    no need to get angry with each of our sides
    I wish you a good day / night :)

    zero December 7, 2020 9:17 pm

    they’re all toxic af let’s just leave it at that lol