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Don't rly know if I like Sudou or not... He's done some bad things for sure, but I feel so...

Angelofdusk May 7, 2015 10:21 am

Don't rly know if I like Sudou or not... He's done some bad things for sure, but I feel so sry for him at the same time (⊙…⊙ ) I wonder why he did the things he did...

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    Lightasus May 7, 2015 11:06 pm
    I won't expose every mistakes but just have another one:Here, look at the shirt Akihito is wearing: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v06/c034/23/And the next page: http://ww... Alohomori

    Mm?
    I don't see the problem xD

    Lightasus May 7, 2015 11:08 pm

    Ah, well there's the wrists I guess.
    Personally that sort of thing never really bothered me aha.

    reponce May 7, 2015 11:34 pm
    Mm?I don't see the problem xD Lightasus

    oho... u didn't noticed the watch ? http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v06/c034/23/

    tokidoki May 7, 2015 11:40 pm
    In these mangas, there're mistakes of translation of course but it is minor. But here, we are talking about Ayano Yamane's huge mistakes in her drawings. The biggest one is the leg of Asami which was injured b... Alohomori

    Ah, true! I think she forgets to look back sometimes. Ah well, perhaps she fixes these things in her tanbokan?

    Lightasus May 8, 2015 1:23 am
    Ah, true! I think she forgets to look back sometimes. Ah well, perhaps she fixes these things in her tanbokan? tokidoki

    *Tankobon :P
    Well, no, she doesn't aha.

    tokidoki May 8, 2015 1:40 am
    *Tankobon :PWell, no, she doesn't aha. Lightasus

    Oops! Should check my spelling before posting! Too bad she does not fix those things, oh well, c'est la vie!

    Alohomori May 8, 2015 8:41 am
    Mm?I don't see the problem xD Lightasus

    Yes, there's the watch but I was mentioning the shirt here: the printed patterns on the shirt are note the same from a page to another.

    Lightasus May 8, 2015 8:50 am
    Yes, there's the watch but I was mentioning the shirt here: the printed patterns on the shirt are note the same from a page to another. Alohomori

    Mm, hard enough to notice aha.
    More seriously, I'm pretty sure she has to rush chapters all the time, and my guess is that at some point she has to stop drawing the draft no matter how finished it is and just ink it. Hence the missing accessories and stuff.
    I mean, she has a habit of leaving blank spaces in the magazine release, probably because the drafts were just that much more unfinished than only an accessory missing.

    Alohomori May 8, 2015 8:58 am
    Oops! Should check my spelling before posting! Too bad she does not fix those things, oh well, c'est la vie! tokidoki

    Yes, unfortunately she didn't fix it. I know she's a human being and human beings can forget some things but it would be better if she reread herself/took some notes to remember things. I don't understand the editor too who should have seen the mistakes.

    I mean no offense for Ayano Yamane and I still like her story but I am a perfectionist so, I cannot not notice her many mistakes, especially a mistake like Asami's injured leg. This one, I find it hard to accept it.

    That said, I still continue to wait impatiently for her updates and buy the book, each time there's a release.

    Rosebud May 8, 2015 9:27 am

    Sudou's a total bitch with some psychological problems, no normal person would kill someone because of jelousy...I totally hate that kind of people who would hurt someone just because they don't like them.

    Alohomori May 8, 2015 1:06 pm
    Mm, hard enough to notice aha.More seriously, I'm pretty sure she has to rush chapters all the time, and my guess is that at some point she has to stop drawing the draft no matter how finished it is and just in... Lightasus

    I'm pretty mixed about the hypothesis she has to rush for each chapter. I wonder why some mangakas manage to draw more pages in less time than 2 months and not her. I take for exemple Rihito Takarai with "10 count" which is published in the magazine Dear+ each month (last update the chapter contained 35 pages). You can argue that Ayano Yamane writes also Crimson spell but, in average, for Crimson Spell and Viewfinder, she publishes about 30 pages bimonthly!!

    I also read Bleach and Tite Kubo publishes each week 17 or 18 pages. Here, you can argue that maybe A. Yamane takes more time to draw little details. But I don't know what to think about that. I don't want to judge her work because I have no right to do that and I can't judge because I don't know the field of manga publishing but there're questions in my mind with no answers about that. And what makes me more confused is that, if she draws 40 pages bimonthly for her two stories, it means she has more than 1 day to finish 1 page. Unless she has no assistant, I don't think she has to rush to complete her work.

    However, there's one thing that I'm sure: it's that her publisher should have fix the mistakes. Part of my university studies were in publishing and I worked a few time for publishers so I can tell you it's a part of their work to read the final chapters and to tell the author about the mistakes before printing. Of course, it can remain some errors but in Viewfinder, there're a lot.

    Lightasus May 8, 2015 7:24 pm
    I'm pretty mixed about the hypothesis she has to rush for each chapter. I wonder why some mangakas manage to draw more pages in less time than 2 months and not her. I take for exemple Rihito Takarai with "10 co... Alohomori

    Look, in an interview she said she was making 20 pages in 3 weeks and that she was a slow as a mangaka. Her editor went "She's never in time!", and they laughed. It was roughly like that.

    She did mention she had barely any assistant though, I think it was 1 or 2 for the screentoning and some friend when she really needed her. She does nearly literally draw everything.

    It was a French interview, I could find it again and give you the link :P

    As for the publishing, I doubt it works exactly the same in Japan, even less in the manga department.

    Lightasus May 8, 2015 7:36 pm
    I'm pretty mixed about the hypothesis she has to rush for each chapter. I wonder why some mangakas manage to draw more pages in less time than 2 months and not her. I take for exemple Rihito Takarai with "10 co... Alohomori

    Ah, here it is:
    "Combien de temps vous faut-il pour terminer un chapitre ?"
    "Trois semaines… (son éditrice réagit : « Bien plus ! », lance-t-elle, ce qui fait rire Yamane, NDR)… pour faire 20 planches. Mais comme le souligne mon éditrice, je suis souvent en retard !"
    http://tori-tori.co/fr/politics/8-interview-de-ayano-yamane

    "Et vous avez beaucoup d’assistants pour vous aider ?"
    "Non, deux assistants. L’assistant en chef et un autre pour les trames. Et si besoin, une amie vient me donner un coup de main. Mais même avec plus d’assistants, je n’avancerais pas plus vite. Tout dépend de moi puisque je dessine toutes les planches."
    http://www.total-manga.com/article-ayano-yamane-pa9549-1404/interview-japan-expo-11.html

    Lightasus May 8, 2015 7:58 pm
    I'm pretty mixed about the hypothesis she has to rush for each chapter. I wonder why some mangakas manage to draw more pages in less time than 2 months and not her. I take for exemple Rihito Takarai with "10 co... Alohomori

    Here's without the links, the website is going to approve the copy of this whenever they're going to feel like it lol.

    Ayano Yamane - Interview Japan Expo 11
    Interview #1
    Et vous avez beaucoup d’assistants pour vous aider ?
    Non, deux assistants. L’assistant en chef et un autre pour les trames. Et si besoin, une amie vient me donner un coup de main. Mais même avec plus d’assistants, je n’avancerais pas plus vite. Tout dépend de moi puisque je dessine toutes les planches.

    Quel est votre rythme de parution ?
    Je ne fais que 20 pages par mois. Pour un mangaka, c’est vraiment peu. Une fois, j’ai fait 40 pages en un mois pour boucler une série mais j’ai failli en mourir, je n’en pouvais plus. (Rire)

    Interview#2
    Combien de temps vous faut-il pour terminer un chapitre ?
    Trois semaines… (son éditrice réagit : « Bien plus ! », lance-t-elle, ce qui fait rire Yamane, NDR)… pour faire 20 planches. Mais comme le souligne mon éditrice, je suis souvent en retard !

    Alohomori May 8, 2015 10:07 pm
    Look, in an interview she said she was making 20 pages in 3 weeks and that she was a slow as a mangaka. Her editor went "She's never in time!", and they laughed. It was roughly like that.She did mention she had... Lightasus

    Thank you for the interview. It confirms what I thought.

    I said I don't know a thing about the publishing of mangas. Yes, it's totally different from other books. The only things I know come from Sekaiichi hatsukoi.^^ However, some things, the main things, are the same from a country to an other, and from a publisher to an other.
    There are always a team for the design of the book (create the text, the illustrations, the layout, etc.), a team for printing, a team for marketing and finally, the distributors of the books.

    With manga publishing, it must be more stressful and very well organized (I hope for them) because the publication deadlines in the magazines are shorter than for a book of literature for example. Everything must be done quickly.

    bakaotaku34 May 8, 2015 10:30 pm
    I won't expose every mistakes but just have another one:Here, look at the shirt Akihito is wearing: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v06/c034/23/And the next page: http://ww... Alohomori

    C'est ouf, j'avais jamais capté !!!!!!! Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

    tokidoki May 9, 2015 7:05 am
    I won't expose every mistakes but just have another one:Here, look at the shirt Akihito is wearing: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v06/c034/23/And the next page: http://ww... Alohomori

    The clothes look similar, it is just that having a screentone fill (the pattern on his shirt) that is the exact same pattern - for close up/distant images is hard to find. I took Graphic Design and know that these patterns can be a little limited.

    Alohomori May 9, 2015 7:17 am
    The clothes look similar, it is just that having a screentone fill (the pattern on his shirt) that is the exact same pattern - for close up/distant images is hard to find. I took Graphic Design and know that th... tokidoki

    Thank you for the information :)
    It's great that we can learn things from people experiences here too. Now, I understand better why she made that "mistake".

    tokidoki May 9, 2015 7:35 am
    Thank you for the information :)It's great that we can learn things from people experiences here too. Now, I understand better why she made that "mistake". Alohomori

    No problem. If you ever see a pattern similar - that does not really change over the folds of clothing (look at your own clothes to see how the pattern changes over folds) then you know the pattern is a screentone as opposed to something hand drawn - but those kinds of patterns are very labour intensive to hand draw. That is why many mangaka use the screen tones. *winks*