mmmh okay,,, my favorite types are when :
- THERE IS NO RAPE !!!! romantizing rape is not something acceptable we need the uke to accept the seme
- there is a real story behind the couple,, not some absurd thing, or "heat" for omegaverses
- they have a past
-it takes time for them to be in couple cause there is a lot of obstacles but they got it in the end
-it's a story that is close to reality (not something that can't happen in life at all)
-not a toxic seme
-not a too subversive uke (we need the personality !!!)
-there is something with jealousy (not in a toxic way), it's really my weak point
-they don't turn around for too long or it becomes annoying
-they're hot seme, cute uke (not necessarly but important for appreciate the story even more)
i guess i could find more but it's more or les the base for the perfect yaoi for me (づ￣ ³￣)づ
One of my favorite : it's really really good and innocent !!
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/jackass_sawatte_ii_tte_dare_ga_itta_yo/
I hate that they always make the uke character more feminine, sometimes it's really taken to extreme degrees to the point where i start to question: why the fuck is the seme attracted to a guy if all he wants is a girl with a dick.
Also the relationship is so so much like a hetero one.
And the way they get jealous disgusts me.
So basically I'd like the uke characters to be men not women and the the relationship shouldn't be like that of a predator and it's pary, and if they see a hansome guy they both admire him together.
Holy shit you might be right! I'm a lesbian so i hate when people asume that being attracted to butch/macho girl makes you gay, in truth it just makes you straight
I think "the" ideal doesnt exist bec. yaoi contains more genre then just bl. for example if you want to read realistic drama yaoi, omegaverse would be... weird, rigth? or if you want criminal comedy, I would not recommend knife bec there is no comedy. sometimes you want/need a deeper story, somtimes just something light and so on...
- I would prefer it if the uke was a strong one. I don't really have a thing for airheaded or very oblivious ukes. Optionally I like innocent semes too.
- Character development is very important! If the protagonists are gonna stay the same the whole story, I think it's kind of a waste, especially if the story is long. Unless the character is meant to stay the way they started as.
- I personally like stories that have a little regret. Like uke leaving seme who was an asshole but then come back running for them. Weird fetish I know.
- I also like very dark themes like suicide.
That's all ^^ The only story I've been able to find that fills these "recruitments" is Back To School. So if you know any, please let me know.
Hmmm I think what would feel like "ideal" for me would be a story where:
- the two main characters are equal (by this I mean that it shouldn't be "A is very rich and B is very poor and unlucky so A 'saves' B by giving him everything he needs", or something like that. I just read that as "B is dependent on A" -> they're not equal because A has power over B) (codependency isn't a problem for me because I love angst but then I'd like to see the character's relationship become more healthy by the end of the story, like in Dark Heaven)
- COMMUNICATION AND CONSENT in the couple
- communication about who wants to do what in bed (often forgotten, it feels like they're just going at it without even asking each other who wants to dick the other like??? Really???)
- there's no set uke or seme, unless the characters actually talked about it (like they do in Harukaze no Etranger, for instance)
- bi/pansexuality is a thing (no "I turned gay for you" please...)
- there are "realistic" sex scenes (no self lubricant assholes please)
- if there are other characters, then include some male characters that are not attracted by men unless the settings makes it realistic (if the story's set in a gay bar then yeah, obviously most of the characters are gay/bi/pan; but if it's set at school, in an office, etc. then it makes no sense that there are only men and they're all gay)
- no omegaverse unless there's an actual meaning to it (criticizing social hierarchy and constructs, things like that)
- no Mpreg (unless there's a rational justification for it, but honestly just adopt that would be better)
Something like that I guess ^^ But of course I can also enjoy stories that don't follow several (most?) of the above, like Saezuru Tori Wa Habatakainai for instance.
Thank you for sharing your opinions! I actually agree with every one of them. “The self lubricanting asshole” lol.
And Alice I love that manga aswell (▰˘◡˘▰)
( I did read everything so your time spent writing this was not in vain and I was very happy to hear similar and new opinions)
yay !!! I love your taste hihi (▰˘◡˘▰)
I want to hear opinions on the ideal yaoi/bl manga