i’m looking forward to the next chapters, maybe this time chanwoo will finally learn how...

Then we can only feel sympathy for your partner's.

agreed, my sympathies for your partners.

unless you’re open to an actual conversation don’t comment <3

I will quote perfect post about the matter: This is BAD representstion of Dom behavior. If you can very clearly see that your Sub is truly afraid, unsure, or straight up unwilling to go through with a scene. You stop, safe word or no, and address the issue like rasional, concenting adults. You do not threaten them with abandonment or violence. Especially if said scene is going against the original rules that both parties originally agreed to.

I’m sure that’s the MD plan!!!

I believe that MD is in the wrong for this specific situation.

To me it seems like he is taking it out on Ch. which I find wrong considering MD knows Ch.'s struggles with abusive relationships and him not being as assertive as necessary. In previous chapters he himself had to stop because he almost choked Ch. He is aware of how Ch thinks and acts so why is he taking advantage of that?

He is using their "play" as a cover to hurt, belittle him and ultimately win him over. To me this is manipulation. I don't see how this is a safe professional environment that could lead to true pleasure. Especially when you just had your heart broken.

The fact that Ch. usually enjoys the embarrassment and pain during their regular sessions doesn't mean he is always up for it. I feel like has been put in an uncomfortable situation where he can't refuse.

What are your thoughts considering you've been in BDSM relationships before? Would love to know!

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i’m going to remind you that this isn’t any “normal” relationship they’re having. it’s a bdsm one, it’s not like what jiwon and DG had. when it comes to bdsm which stands for Bondage Discipline, Sadochism and Masochism everything is differently, we know chiwoo liked extreme bdsm and we’ve shown he enjoys violence he’s consented to it repeatedly. in this scene he’s showing actual dominance and is teaching him a lesson. lessons in bdsm results in punishment (most of the time unless it’s actually gone too far which in this is just a slap) it’s not a little pep talk. in the beginning they both consented to this relationship and chiwoo knew VERY WELL what was going on. when it comes to a sub being afraid, unsure, or unwilling to go with it that’s when the safe word comes in. safe words are a necessity for when it comes to stuff like this and it shown very well here that he needs to use it. threats are a NORMAL thing when it comes to a relationship like this it’s not his first time with it. if he’s unwilling to go through something like this he NEEDS to use is safe word and this is a lesson for him to use it. it’s not abuse, it’s discipline.

from experience, that's sometimes the issue with BDSM. some men who want to be really violent with their partners can manipulate you into going through things you don't want to, safe word or not. or if you're in a bad mindset and want to be hurt, these people can take advantage of that and cause some serious long term mental health issues.

You seriously have no idea about safety about BDSM. As a med student who saw myself during holidays internships the dramatic consequences of unsafe BDSM play I'm worried.
You completely don't get psychological manipulation which MD used.
BDSM where dom is mixing his feelings and grudge with a play? Where he is taking his anger out on the sub because he had audacity to reject him? Where he makes sub participate in the play and things he is uncomfortable with under disguise of BDSM scene? And he knows sub won't refuse because of conditions he put on him and they are impacting his choices. What's more it was shown that Chanwoo has problems with limits, he didn't say anything while being strangled to death and MD is fully taking advantage of that. He isn't interested in the other sub in the slightest, he is just getting petty revange on Chanwoo.
This isn't good or safe representation of BDSM.

ur argument is same as people saying that if a women is taken advantage of, it's her fault she didn't say no. sometimes men who are extremely violent towards their partners become doms to get away with it. if your friend told you her boyfriend who hit her, slap her and choke her but she didn't mind would you not think that her partner is shitty? when it becomes sexual, suddenly it's okay. i'm not against BDSM but there really needs to be more conversations about the abuse that can happen. when u are threatening someone to do a sexual act, knowing that they wouldn't otherwise if you were threatening them, that's is sexual assualt. idc if he "knew" what he was getting into, that doesn't mean you can't be taken advantage of.

personally i don’t believe it’s him taking advantage of it. we were shown in previous chapter that he was in an abusive relationship and MD himself even went out of his way to help him get out of it, offering to be with him. we know their relationship is strictly a bdsm one but we know deep down he cares for him more than that and wanted to show him by getting him out of there, but instead chanwoo basically told him to “mind his business.” so i believe he was more hurt at the fact he wanted to stay in a toxic relationship than to find help from him.

the play could really be manipulation in a way, he agreed to having both of them as subs and try to win him over which in that alone was questionable, but we already know that with MD if chanwoo gives his safe word he will immediately stop. not to mention the fact that chanwoo even went out to see a man without informing him beforehand and even called him to tell him about having him join (before he found out he was a precious sub for him) so in this part is where chanwoo should’ve called it quits entirely but instead went along with it. in this part it’s when chanwoo would’ve need to speak up. the bdsm relationship is between him and MD and his word matters as well, but he isn’t using it and instead goes along with it which is a red flag from the sub, speaking up matters.

and i agree in a lot of scenes it seems he’s not comfortable in it and is going along, but this is when safe word comes to play. it’s absolutely NECESSARY that you use it when it’s needed. patterns like this will only make it worse for the sub and go to the extreme where the dom himself will be uncomfortable (as shown previously where MD himself had to stop) so while i don’t fully agree with what is going on. this is a pretty decent lesson that chanwoo needs to begin using his safe words.
it’s clear that MD was also hurt at the fact that chanwoo really only treats him like just a sex toy than to actually rely on him. so in my opinion this is a teachable moment, is it the right one? maybe not but chanwoo needs to discover his own limits!

That's what I gathered as well but I wanted to also hear the opinion of someone who has experienced it first hand.

I still stand by my previous comment. I find this situation dangerous and unnecessary.

well, what can you say? according to OP's personal BDSM relationship MD was not in the wrong! this OP is getting tiresome

but this is not like any other normal relationship. if a man abuses a woman and she says it’s okay, but it’s not related to bdsm then that is in fact an abusive relationship. i understand where you’re coming and i do agree that there SHOULD be more talk with it, but this is a completely different situation as to a normal relationship. bdsm relationships is all about consent and they’ve both agreed to it.
and even when it is sexual if it’s not consented beforehand then it’s wrong. there’s a big difference between the two of those. if you don’t care what he was getting into then i’d advice you to do research about it more, a bdsm relationship is a completely different world and whether it’s something they actually enjoy or not it comes down to them. someone might not enjoy being taken advantage but there’s people out there who WITH consent do.

then stop replying? i’m not forcing you to answer me

it's really wrong you think that chanwoo deserves this lesson to start saying safe words. he obviously doesn't want to do it, sexual abuse/rape should NEVER be a punishment!!!!! if you can't understand body language then you should never be a dom, he can clearly tell he is uncomfortable. subs can be manipulated and abused mentally very easily in these kinds of relationships, which irl can lead to a serious mental health issues. this is just rape apology under the disguise of BDSM

Thank you for your input.

I agree with some of things you say but I don't see how it's right to mix your personal anger and grudge in a play. Both sides need to be on the same page to fully enjoy it. It can be dangerous if that's not the case, no?

MD agreed to continue their BDSM relationship even after the rejection and was informed prior to the meeting that he would meet someone new that is a romantic interest to the other person. I don't see how that's so wrong. He could have declined and everything would have been fine. Whether he is hurt or not should not affect their session.

Why manipulate and push Ch to his breaking point? I don't see how he is showing his care and love. Ch. simply wanted to continue as they were which is completely his right.

We are not talking about this concept in general. I'm sure the scenes portrayed are mild compared to reality.
For this specific couple in these very specific circumstances I feel that it wasn't handled properly.

?? please show me where i ever said rape was okay i’m confused?? this is not a rape apology i’m just telling you as my own experience in the bdsm world how it is. if you don’t want to do actual research on how it goes i can’t help you. bdsm isn’t just “oh i’m going to spank him and give him a lesson” it’s more than just that. he himself knows what a bdsm relationship is, he’s had lessons before. how is this any different than before?
it’s the whole reason why safe words exist. for this very moment. bdsm is not for the lighthearted people which is why if someone can be abused mentally easily just SHOULDNT be part of that world

"For this specific couple in these very specific circumstances I feel that it wasn't handled properly"
Gonna lay this down to OP