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I'm just....

spiff September 28, 2018 9:50 am

I really wonder about people who get all bothered about stories like this and drop them because they're "too serious". Like, do you only read simple romance and comedies? Do you require no story in your stories?

I sometimes think it's a lack of maturity that makes these people so angry at these stories for "being so dramatic", "hurting their feelings", "taking themselves too seriously", etc. Like they just want all stories to be perfect happy fun times and portray all the muddled expectations they have.

Obviously this isn't just about this story. I've come to see this a lot on -- get this -- mostly BL comics and it's been brewing in me for so long now. I almost never see this when I go and read shoujo or josei. Like, with those -- especially Josei -- people seem to be more open with the conversation and with the dramatic and real life approaches than people often are with BL. With BL I feel it's often "fall in love and be happy and have sex for my perverse satisfaction or I'm dropping this; stop taking yourself so seriously, author".

I don't quite understand that. Maybe it's just that the people reading these tend to be too young for it. They've come here for weird fulfillment of their gay fetish fantasies and oh no it's not all sexy fun times and now they're upset.

I don't know, I don't think I fully expressed what I was trying to say and I really should go back and check everything but it's 5 am and I haven't slept so never mind that. Anyway, don't hate me for all this. I'm just saying what I felt. Well, I mean I guess you can hate me. That's cool too. Just don't bother giving some half ass defense for yourself if you know somewhere in your mind you're just a kid fetishizing gay relationships because I have no desire to reason with you and will not justify a further response. Have a nice day or night or whatever I don't know where I am.

Responses
    Rosebutt September 29, 2018 1:55 pm

    I think saying that they drop the manga because of lack of maturity is a little bit wrong to say? I mean there are people who read bl not for the plot but for satisfying themselves but there are some who drop it because they can't deal with the drama. Like it's not good for their heart cus they constantly feel upset and angry for those characters that they couldn't cope with those emotions. I have a friend who just love simple romances (not yaoi all the time) but hates dramatic stories. Anyways i do agree with the rest. There are some immature young people who would come read yaoi only for the sex which pisses me off. They would get upset if they don't get what they want and lash out to the authors (which i've seen before- outrageous!). These people are ヽ(`Д´)ノ but yeah, i do get what you mean.

    t8nt3d September 30, 2018 1:36 pm

    A decade or so back, when yaoi was yaoi and BL meant exclusively shounen-ai, and hosting BL manga on online readers weren't the norm, the shoujo genre had easier access and used to have this kind of rabid readership where any problematic thing was pushed aside if it meant the couple getting together and only brought to criticism when it does the opposite. That kind of immaturity was actually what pushed me to read yaoi in the first place. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    With the interest for BL taking over what used to be shoujo's domain, I'm guessing it's the next gen of the same type of readers that have moved to this genre. So, I don't believe it can be wholly blamed on gay fetishization as much as it really is young people expecting an idealized form of love (rape or consent be damned as long as there's complete fidelity).

    @Rosebutt I'm sorry, but being unable to cope with the drama IS a sign of lack of emotional maturity. It's not meant to be offensive. It's exactly why there's ratings for consuming media.

    Rosebutt September 30, 2018 6:10 pm
    A decade or so back, when yaoi was yaoi and BL meant exclusively shounen-ai, and hosting BL manga on online readers weren't the norm, the shoujo genre had easier access and used to have this kind of rabid reade... t8nt3d

    Hmmm, but i still disagree with you. It is different in different kind of people. Like how some people can't deal with horror or thrillers.

    Rosebutt September 30, 2018 6:22 pm
    A decade or so back, when yaoi was yaoi and BL meant exclusively shounen-ai, and hosting BL manga on online readers weren't the norm, the shoujo genre had easier access and used to have this kind of rabid reade... t8nt3d

    You're making me question what is emotional maturity because i just can't see it in your point of view? I would appreciate if you explain it further on what you meant why avoiding reading drama is a a sign of lack of emotional maturity. Sorry, i can't seem to get your message. What if you don't like a certain drama? I mean like, you do like other kinds of drama but avoiding the other types of drama you don't like is still seen as a lack of maturity? Oh but anyways, i do agree with you with the shoujo part. I got tired reading some of them because it was too childish and cliche for me.Too much predictable sappy romance.