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Would you cheat/sleep with someone else just because the person you love wanted you to?

BrokenEchoes June 23, 2024 3:44 pm

I know I wouldn't. Which is why I can't forgive Carcel for that. And it's not like he knew Ines wanted him to cheat either so that was all on him too. (And if you would do that, I honestly don't know what to say to you). However I can appreciate that he's having some character development now.

As for his mother, if someone put that much thought into designing a place for me, I would melt and die happy. The introvert in me loves her for that. Hope she doesn't hurt Ines in the future.

Responses
    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 1:28 am
    Why does your forgiveness matter? YOU are not the one in a relationship with him. Ines doesn't have to forgive him when SHE never felt he had done anything wrong. Even if Carcel was to apologize, SHE would tell... snapplecider

    Some of these readers think the world is black and white. They shouldn’t even be reading The Broken Ring which is a story with a lot of messy characters, events and behavior just like the real world. They really should be reading those manhwa with both virgin male and female leads but for some reason they’re still reading this story for whatever reason.

    HRAensn June 24, 2024 1:36 am
    I didn't say they were lovers. I said someone you (he) loves. There's a difference. I wouldn't sleep with someone if I was in love with someone else, even if I thought they didn't love me. That's not how my hea... BrokenEchoes

    He wasn’t in love with her at the beginning, nor was Ines.

    HRAensn June 24, 2024 1:36 am

    And even if someone is in love, they never mutually consented or agreed to a relationship. It was all one sided on Ines’s part; she forced the engagement.

    HRAensn June 24, 2024 1:42 am
    That's debatable. Just because you haven't named an emotion, it doesn't make that emotion non existent.But if that was the case, it would mean that he pursued Ines prior to and in the earlier days of their marr... BrokenEchoes

    Wanted her for only her body, then he wouldn’t have fallen for her. And you haven’t read properly if you think he only wanted her body. But it’s also not exactly 100% readers fault cause the manhwa covers a lot up where in novel, it describes that Carcel tried to pursue Ines with his innocent mind, asking his parents to give advice or another, while Ines was manipulating and planning to use him.

    BrokenEchoes June 24, 2024 6:29 am
    Wait, so you think a person’s conscience only work if they’re in love? What kind of nonsense is this? Someone can regret their behavior after realizing they were wrong, immature, irresponsible, etc. Regrett... StoryofMinglan

    You know, for someone who seems to think they're a mature reader and anyone who dislikes Carcel isn't mature enough to understand the story, you certainly like to ignore facts and misconstrue/generalise what people say a lot

    BrokenEchoes June 24, 2024 6:36 am
    He held on to her? She’s the one who held on to him so that she can use him. Her father wanted to break the engagement and she’s the one who prevented it because she has her plan to use him. Just to show ho... StoryofMinglan

    They both held onto each other for their own reasons. That I won't deny. But who are you calling a simp? I'm not the one defending a grown man who has the power to say no, break the engagement, and decide who he fools around with. He's not a baby.

    He was manipulated as a child, yes, but the actions I have an issue with happend when he was an adult. Even if I let what happened when he was a teenager slide, it doesn't change the fact that he was still sleeping around as a man with a fully functioning brain.

    I can hold Ines to account for her flaws. Can you do the same for Carcel? If not, I'm pretty sure that makes you the simp, not me.

    BrokenEchoes June 24, 2024 6:38 am
    Some of these readers think the world is black and white. They shouldn’t even be reading The Broken Ring which is a story with a lot of messy characters, events and behavior just like the real world. They rea... StoryofMinglan

    That's funny. One of the main reasons I enjoy this story is because if the messy characters but sure, you carry on thinking you're the only reader who appreciates morally grey characters/webtoons .

    BrokenEchoes June 24, 2024 6:39 am
    He wasn’t in love with her at the beginning, nor was Ines. HRAensn

    I know she wasn't. I'm not so sure about him.

    BrokenEchoes June 24, 2024 6:42 am
    And even if someone is in love, they never mutually consented or agreed to a relationship. It was all one sided on Ines’s part; she forced the engagement. HRAensn

    She might have forced the engagement when they were kids. Are you saying he wasn't man enough to break it off before sleeping around? If it wasn't mutual, why did he care about being caught by her? He could have just said that they're not even in a relationship so she has no say in what he does. But he didn't.

    BrokenEchoes June 24, 2024 6:47 am
    Wanted her for only her body, then he wouldn’t have fallen for her. And you haven’t read properly if you think he only wanted her body. But it’s also not exactly 100% readers fault cause the manhwa covers... HRAensn

    You can start off being attracted to someone physically and then slowly fall in love with them. Is that such a weird concept to you?

    And if you think he didn't want her for her body at all, it's clear you haven't been reading properly. Or perhaps you skipped the panels where he was dreaming about her getting naked for him or where he was ogling her body shape/mentally complaining about her clothes? How convenient.

    I don't care how it is in the novel. I'm only judging the story based on what this webtoon has shown me so far.

    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 10:13 am
    They both held onto each other for their own reasons. That I won't deny. But who are you calling a simp? I'm not the one defending a grown man who has the power to say no, break the engagement, and decide who h... BrokenEchoes

    LOL Since when I don’t hold Carcel to his flaws. You might think I fault him for sleeping around but I don’t. There is nothing I hate more than clingy losers who would hold on to someone after being repeatedly rejected. That is why I support Carcel in living his life however he saw fit. Ines herself don’t blame him either.

    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 10:14 am
    That's funny. One of the main reasons I enjoy this story is because if the messy characters but sure, you carry on thinking you're the only reader who appreciates morally grey characters/webtoons . BrokenEchoes

    Appreciate morally gray characters? LOL So you claim.

    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 10:23 am
    You know, for someone who seems to think they're a mature reader and anyone who dislikes Carcel isn't mature enough to understand the story, you certainly like to ignore facts and misconstrue/generalise what pe... BrokenEchoes

    At least I’m not here harping on Carcel’s past like some of you readers who are literally obsessed with his past. Immaturity stays in a place of no growth. No matter how much has already been revealed to show Carcel’s character apart from Ines’s shallow pov of him, you readers are still stuck on the first few chapters of this story. Even Ines has long admitted that she misjudged him and will continue to do so right to the very end of the story as the truth continually slaps her in the face.

    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 10:52 am
    Why does your forgiveness matter? YOU are not the one in a relationship with him. Ines doesn't have to forgive him when SHE never felt he had done anything wrong. Even if Carcel was to apologize, SHE would tell... snapplecider

    That’s because they’re not actually interested in new information. Therefore, Carcel’s mother revealing what she observed about Ines’s zero interest in him, her expression of concern that her son would spend the rest of his life looking at Ines’s back, Ines’s own admission that it’s no longer like that, and Isabella’s concern for the young couple means nothing to readers like this. They rather focus on the first 10 chapters and not the next 64 chapters. That’s why this comment section always discuss the same thing over and over.

    They’re also completely blind to Ines’s flaws that the manga didn’t cover up and justifies everything she does just because she still had a hymen when Carcel first slept with her. Even when she herself slept with a stranger whose name she didn’t even know, they justify it. Not really surprising because we’ve seen so many times that female leads can do no wrong and if they did, it’s always justified.

    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 10:55 am
    Why does your forgiveness matter? YOU are not the one in a relationship with him. Ines doesn't have to forgive him when SHE never felt he had done anything wrong. Even if Carcel was to apologize, SHE would tell... snapplecider

    Oh, and we mustn’t forget her trauma caused by the two bad choices she made in men. That entitles her to always get sympathy even when she chooses to screw over the one man who has helped her in all of her past lives and the one man who has never hurt her.

    HRAensn June 24, 2024 11:03 am
    She might have forced the engagement when they were kids. Are you saying he wasn't man enough to break it off before sleeping around? If it wasn't mutual, why did he care about being caught by her? He could hav... BrokenEchoes

    “Man enough” yikes. Girl do you think it’s that easy to break off an engagement just cause he’s a man? Nope. In their society both of them are from equal household powers, Ines is from a powerful household.

    And he was engaged when he was a kid. It’s a promise between families, HE wasn’t the one who agreed to it so he can’t break it off without his family. As for Ines, she was a grown woman in a kid’s body at the time she forced Carcel to be engaged.

    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 11:04 am
    And even if someone is in love, they never mutually consented or agreed to a relationship. It was all one sided on Ines’s part; she forced the engagement. HRAensn

    They only see what they want to see. They claim they see Ines’s flaws but it’s just all talk because they would NEVER make a main comment talking about Ines’s flaws. That’s because they don’t actually think she has flaws.

    HRAensn June 24, 2024 11:15 am
    They only see what they want to see. They claim they see Ines’s flaws but it’s just all talk because they would NEVER make a main comment talking about Ines’s flaws. That’s because they don’t actually... StoryofMinglan

    Well said. I don’t know what’s hard about admitting that there’s more to it than just “cheating”. And I’m not too sure if Carcel loved her at the beginning but from what I saw in manhwa, clearly neither of them loved each other and Carcel felt that he wasn’t loved either. So I don’t get the question: “Would you cheat on someone you love” when Carcel doesn’t love.

    StoryofMinglan June 24, 2024 11:43 am
    Well said. I don’t know what’s hard about admitting that there’s more to it than just “cheating”. And I’m not too sure if Carcel loved her at the beginning but from what I saw in manhwa, clearly nei... HRAensn

    Carcel didn’t understand he liked her as a teenager and even if he did like her for a bit, it was never allowed to grow into something worth talking about. Carcel is a very genial person when it comes to Ines. He sees her bad personality since he was as young as 6 years but he’s so easy going that he always likes her in every timeline by age 7. Carcel himself doesn’t know this unless the circumstances allow him to realize it.

    In the hidden timeline he knew because he was actually in a courtship that was headed to early marriage. In this current timeline, Ines had been filling his head with nonsense. Even after they married, and Carcel thought he fell for her, she dissuaded him and told him those aren’t his feelings. This was before her near death experience. Then after her hear death experience, Carcel gained clarity and realized on his own that his feelings are those of love. That’s because Ines wasn’t there to further confuse him about what he was feeling because she was unconscious. There is even one point in the novel, around the time of their wedding, that Carcel tells her point blank to stop trying to brainwash him.

    BrokenEchoes June 24, 2024 1:42 pm
    LOL Since when I don’t hold Carcel to his flaws. You might think I fault him for sleeping around but I don’t. There is nothing I hate more than clingy losers who would hold on to someone after being repeate... StoryofMinglan

    I know you don't fault him for sleeping around. Obviously . Maybe that's normal for you but it's not for me.