I am sorry but what? A mage’s grade is determined by their renown and accomplishments? A...

But that make more sense. And that not just vague thing as popularity but an actual accomplishments, that will go through the history! Also someone who defeated a lot monster should have a lot of experience, which will help more than learning new techniques. That's why in actual battle despite less powerful, they can win through their wise decisions.
Stupid (really stupid) "in game" like example: 90 lvl f-rang mob is stronger than sss-rank lvl 1 char, cause the other had exp.

Experience is all good. But by this story’s logic experience will help you gain pints but it’s the points itself that determine the drags of the mage. But you can get points by meeting the king? And how does one measure renown points. And someone’s whose renown started in the capital vs someone whose renown started at the edge of the empire will have their popularity spread at different paces but they could be the similarly powerful. But they won’t share the same grade because one got more popular before the other. You see what I mean?

As I said before, it's not about popularity. More like authority or maybe competence. You see, it is better to think of them as of scholars. Even in real world to at higher lvl after uni you need to write a sertain amount of scientific articles each month as graduate student, and so on. You might be clever enough to actually do all research in *take for example* rocket engine and find a good solution at some topic. But you can't just go and build it right away showing of how clever you are. That's not how it works! Scholars go through sirtain accreditation then it should be approved by many others who work in that sphere. Fr

...I accidentally pressed the button "post"#－.－)
Anyway, I was telling that that people can't be rate by word "smart" or power in real society. It is more about how useful one can be. To be invited by king means you are known to be able to do something of his need. Like why would he need a really strong fire type mage when it's a peaceful countryp when instead he needs an mage who can solve a problem of droughts one region? Also back to scholars, wherever you from, there are always be date bank where all your deeds are written.

....it getting to long, shortly think of that as work authority.

P.s sorry for mistakes, Eng not really much language it's difficult to explain some terms. Therefore rules in different countries differ#－.－)

Yes I get that. But what I am saying is using points (which are gain by popularity or renown) is still stupid. Just the accomplishments in themselves should be enough as it as. Why add a random system to it which is hard to keep up with. What exactly determines the points rewarded for one deed? What if someone did something new how would one determine how much points that should give. Does one carry whole log book detailing how many points they have gained? Also a guide book for how many points on gets on certain things? You see what I mean. It’s impractical and honestly kinda stupid. Especially for a manhwa like this. If it were a gaming world that might have made sense.

Oh, so that's about point system. Well, yeah, that makes things more complicated then they are. Guess, I agree here.

Glad you agree XD

I personally think it's also a nice touch to the story. The hint should be from the way Shirone had started studying the very history of the world and magic first. Because although they call it popularity or accomplishments, what matters most is actually your influence. So yes, if two mages were from different places, one that's in the capital would be more renowned if they were only similarly powerful. Since the more popular one will be able to influence other mages to, say, be even more competitive and continue advancing magic.

The points, let's not be silly wahaha. They have magic. And they can allocate it by category, level x monsters are this much points, level x disaster solved is this much points, etc. We're not about to witness every single event so there's no need to be oddly specific. If someone did something new, well, that's the point of the mages. They're so engrossed with learning that it's impossible they haven't thought of it, what with every now and then, some mage just discovers one thing after another. Could also be allocated by category, that's lvl x magic so this much points!

Anyway, I'm not the author but this was what came to mind considering what I read up to this point. I just think it's genius how they even came up with the all the systems.

Experience, influence, renown are all one thing. I just can’t agree with the points system. It’s seems so redundant. It’s precisely because the world building is so good that this feels so off. And one doesn’t need to be a mage to build a system for points. Just feels off that a mage who is is interested in knowledge would give higher importance to points. But that’s just how I feel. You’re welcome to like it XD

Wahahaha yes. But influence is the ability to make others MOVE as well, whereas renown is just one person being widely known or talked about. Sorry I couldn't explain that well. It's like accomplishment + renown = impact to the mage community, and the points make them more competitive which leads to more discoveries, more accomplishments, and smarter work. So in a way, through the points, they are drawing more mages in to keep making and achieving greater things. They're still humans tho, and of course some will really only be there to because they want to make a name. Maybe the one who made the point system was also such a person wahahaha.

(Wanted to keep rambling but I reread it and felt like I'm coming off as pushy so I'll stop here. Thank you, you're also welcome to feel how you feel. QAQ)

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