just read it or don’t bro it ain’t that deep
Dude finding too much flaw. You know it's not perfect yet. Let it be. Just like how the author want. At least it shown that the author actually didn't think of this plot much because it might make them stress. And that's good news for me. Maybe (if it's from novel) it have other plot twist. Like, the reason he have crazy luck like other mc without doing anything. Let it be bruh.
Are you even reading the story...
1. No one has to know how much he struggled in order for him to deserve the things coming to him. This is NOT plot armor. This is him using his past knowledge to his advantage.
2. The thing he's doing differently is actively NOT trying to kill all of his siblings. The eldest is clearly very family oriented, and seemed to find solace in the fact that the youngest main goal, even if it has to eventually come to that, is not just murdering his family for power.
3. Ice queen clearly loves her daughter, and Jin either did her a favor (I can't exactly recall) or saved her life. Not only that but the fact that her daughter was in the midst of that fight and also wanted things to go the way Jin wanted them to go, she HAD to stop the bomb.
4. All this is possible essentially because he's strong. If he was a 1 star mage with no sword skills, then none of this would have happened. Thanks to his past knowledge and effort to get to 7 stars, he's been able to get this far. I mean let's not forget that he was supposed to be this powerful in general, but someone literally CURSED him from birth rendering him helpless with the sword?? Jin worked his ass off in his previous life DESPITE the setbacks and now that he got another chance he's taking it. I think it's safe to say he deserved all of what he's getting, no?
Just to add a few things. The reason why the oldest sibling is doting him is because he APPROACHED her and told her about the curse. Do you all remember her face? She was furious, disgusted, and heartbroken that her youngest brother had to endure.
That's how she bonded with him. She saw him for what he was a baby and a child and gave him her emergency necklace: the one he used to call her when that powerful mage use necromancy against him.
If you go back and read and write down things then proceed with the story ... somethings will make more sense than just reading one chapter every week. The human brain is capable of many things, however knowledge might've been to fast for you as you ran to fast for knowledge to catch up to you: l3ar.
Yes. I know he approached her when she suddenly had the impulse to give him a birthday gift after he revealed his shadow flames.
What I don't understand is why she suddenly felt the need to extend the excessive favoritism when she was described as indifferent to interacting with her siblings in the original timeline. Also, just because he told her that someone tried to assassinate him, why didn't she extend the same thing to her other siblings. The other siblings were clealy all trying to kill and sabotage each other, regardless of age.
As for the family-orientated comment by @Ct711, being family-orientated and not wanting to kill her family members are two separate things. Again, it didn't sound like she did anything for her siblings other than leave the heir fight.
Yes. I indeed read the story.
However, this was mainly a rant post because I wanted to relieve my frustration right after I finished the latest chapter. I was absurdly frustrated because this story honestly had a great premise to be a great story with the intricate world the author designed, but every plot conclusion has left me extremely frustrated. The premise of infighting for succession was interesting. I was looking forward to the dynamics he had with his siblings, but it somehow came out as outright hostile, favoritism, or cannon fodder. The idea of seeing amass fame without using the Runcadell name left me intrigued, but the majority of the plots so far have been the supporting character finding out he's a Runcadel, and suddenly deciding to support him because of his family.
1. When I made this comment I did not mean it as a justification for every comment I said. It was to exemplify the frustration I had for the inexplicable favoritism at every corner.
a. Sister, who was indifferent or neutral to all her siblings in the whole timeline, regardless of the clear attempts of sabotage or killing attempts between each, suddenly gave her utmost support to MC just because he said someone tried to kill each other. Again, I reiterate why did she suddenly want to help and favour him to the extreme when her other siblings are clearly killing and sabotaging one another in the whole other timeline and current timeline.
b. White maiden. The MC only met her on essentially two occasions. The first attempt was when he was assassinating her mother's love. The second time was during the banquet reveal where she lost in a fight. (I think that was what I recall.) Hence, why did she see the need to risk her life to save him from an essentially nuclear bomb, along with her mother? Hence, why I am again frustrated with the explicable favoritism. (Sure. Maybe author just wants the template FL to fon at every action MC does, but that doesn't diminish the frustration I have.)
c. White dragon. She has nostalgia for the first Runcandel lead and is thankful for the warning about warning for her contractor. Returns help with helping with fighting an insane dragon-mage duo and then gives an assassination-repellent horn. She may be justified to an extent, but did she really need to give so many things?!
2. I'm not disappointed that he isn't killing his siblings. I was disappointed by the simple, extreme polar sibling dynamics, overtly hostile, favoritism, or cannon fodder.
From my perspective, his sister is not family-orientated. She has an aversion to killing her family members. Read my previous comment.
3. He is strong, but the major plotlines so far have been concluded with him relying on someone else's help (again the explicable favoritism I'm frustrated with). Also, the only major impression of him I have of him doing something by himself was when he killed the mage who put the curse on him. And even in this chapter, IDK, if it's the way the manhwa artist or author portrayed the story, it felt like he was killing a cannon fodder. -.-
motherfuckers when they find out people read stories and actually use their brains to think about the plot and characters:
I lovee when people actually discuss/rant about the actual logical solidarity of manhwas and webtoons. I was also wondering why everything seems to happen so quickly.
About the ice queen and the flowers: someone else said that the queens daughter was involved in the fight, but I’m pretty sure that was AFTER she and her daughter arrived at the scene, she could have easily turned a blind eye and left with her daughter… she’s not truly indebted to the mc, ESPECIALLY not enough to put her own daughter in danger like that.
And while he’s using his ‘past knowledge’ it’s not really past knowledge it’s really just luck like you said (someone else was bitching about it being the result of his past knowledge). No way he gets all these items after doing nothing. In the beginning, when he had his little trainee crew, that seemed to fit in line with him using his old memories, but after a certain point he began going places he knew nothing about in his past life, and still surviving based on random items he happened to attain beforehand.
Honestly, the biggest thing that makes his luck seem so out of character imo is the fact that he takes a whole new path as soon as he’s born. In other manhwas the mc does his own thing, or follows a relatively similar timeline, maybe just a little faster than before. In this story, the mc takes a whole new turn since he wasn’t exiled, and because of that experiences wayy too many new things that he shouldn’t have much knowledge for.
I think your argument of family-orient vs an aversion to killing her family for the sister is absolutely spot on, but her relation with the mc may be because their viewpoints simply align? Just a guess but when he entered that house with the twins up until he was ten, we saw that the twins were already going after the mc. What may have piqued her interest at first might have been the fact that he was able to overpower his older siblings at a young age and the fact that he was beginning to show a talent similar to hers (we see examples of this more so later on when he predicted the explosion of the ball and was uninjured, the only person to react fast enough besides the sister), but later on she also realized they had mutual feelings about not wanting or caring to kill their family members.
This was purely a discussion post, not trying to disprove or discredit anyone’s reasonings/theories, simply building off of what has already been said. :)
For real
Mfs when fictional stories have flaws and they put real world logic on a fckn book :
"real world logic" bitch were you born stupid or did you hit your head recently? the 'real world logic' you're talking about is plot contrivances and conveniences. just because something is set in a fantasy setting or fictional doesn't mean every plot hole/convenience can be excused. do you have holes in your brain? this is why media literacy is important. learn to fucking think about the shit you read instead of mindlessly scrolling through pretty pictures like a baby. it's genuinely amazing how braindead you sound. did you mentally grow past the age of 3?
You lost all my respect when you called me a bitch go kys
i'm sooooooo saaaaaddddd that Deepthroat Circus on mangago dot me doesn't respect me anymore. oh, the horror! the terror! go jump off a bridge and kill yourself first you stupid ass bitch. don't speak if you can't think.
I can think just fine it’s dumb ass cunts like you that pmo when y’all are mad a book has a fucking flaw or they do things that have contradictions to what was said earlier to advance the plot and you have to be a dumb ass bitch bc anyone has told who he is has either died or was trusted and is currently his ally so you fucktard complain over a book when nobody gives a shit about your opinion maybe get your fat ass up and go get a job or write your own damn book if you wanted to be perfect and you don’t have to care that I said I don’t respect you because ur probably like 9 but real adults can have a civil conversation without all the name calling which in my original comment I didn’t do …. It was unnecessary for u to do so
i ain't reading allat. do everyone a favour and die.
Suck a duck and choke to death
holy shit you're retarded. can you kill yourself already? fugly hoe.
you parents should've aborted you, negative iq ass bitch. i hope you get run over by a truck today.
Mfs when another mf makes a joke lmao
Lmao the fact she said all this over a manga to was wild
I'm somewhat frustrated with the protagonist. In the big picture, it doesn't feel like he did something to deserve everything coming his way. Everything he has done and achieved was saved by a random item given to him due to plot armour or inexplicable favouritism. Yes, he suffered a lot from his previous life, but no one knows this!
Sister, who claimed she was the protector of the family, ignores all of her siblings, who were constantly pointing death threats at one another, and suddenly prioritizes the youngest because he received an assassination attempt, supposedly by one of her other siblings. WTF? What about your other siblings who were killing one another?! What did he do differently to change her mindset 180? Also, what has he shown to have her choose him as the next patriarch?!?!?! She had only seen him always a little duckling?!?! (teaching him to mind eye, choosing his first sword, saving him from a demon king level dragon-mage duo, tattletaled that her maid betrayed her)
Reserve flagbearers are supposed not to use the Runcandel name during their reserve period. The protagonist keeps revealing himself as a Runcandel in every story plot to gather help. WTF? What's the point of this point then?!
Girl gives a bouquet of flowers. Her ice queen mother comes his way and saves him essentially against a nuclear bomb at risk of her and her daughter's lives. WTF? This is too unrealistic. Any normal person would not risk their life for a guy she only met like 3 times.
White dragon gives him an assassination-repellent horn. Item saves him and his heir-apparent friends' lives from assassins for 10 years. What did he do to deserve this god-send item when he was the one who essentially requested the white dragon for help with finding the little girl's dragon?!?!