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i wish penelope was more cruel

daddyrie March 20, 2024 1:56 pm

i’m rereading this story and honestly it’s so frustrating having to watch penelope constantly have to play nice and lower herself just so she doesn’t get killed by the people within the duchy who have never bothered to care for her. i wish this was more like the villainess turns the hourglass and that penelope would just get revenge on all of them without forgiveness. they’re treating her better now but after all they’ve done they don’t deserve anything good from her. even emily used to prick her with needles and feed her rotten food for no good reason, i don’t like how they’re all getting redemption arcs that they don’t deserve. all these “sweet” moments leave a bad taste in my mouth considering how they insulted, neglected and abused her before. derrick is shit but reynold doesn’t deserve to be forgiven either, he made penelope’s life a living hell before she changed and watched silently as even the servants disrespected her. now he’s trying to act like all his behaviour towards her in the past never happened, has he even apologised properly? no one tried to understand her and she was basically forced into being a villainess by a family who took her in just to neglect her. now that she’s acting servile towards them, suddenly they care…honestly can’t wait until she leaves the duchy with the ML

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    Suzzu March 20, 2024 1:44 pm

    GOD I HOPE NOT. Villainess turn hourglass is basically a "Mean girl" fantasy. Both FMC and ML are bullies pretending to be the victim lmao. They are both evil, manipulative, self centered and opportunistic duo. The time that cares only about themselves and the people that worship and support them. The protag bullies and constantly torment a girl who still didn't do nothing to her because that girl in a different timeline brought her downfall because she was foolish and naive. A complete Mary sue. Note that the protagonist have always been in the position of power in that webtoon. An overkill both in terms knwolege of the future and the power to literally fix any mistake she could and any senseless bullying she did. Utterly lacking any emphathy despite being a victim before. It's basically a frustrated bullied kid fantasy of becoming the bully. Only time she was in disadvantage was when she lost the hourglass and even then the Prince and others had her back. Penelope on the other hand is hated by everyone, doesn't have anyone at her side, doesn't how the story ends or how the character reacts, doesn't have any cheat, and against ab evil woman that is like the protag if the hourgalss: manipulate people and turning them against each other, having a cheat that always put them in a position of power both in magical terms and background (the hourglass girl was a secret royal too.)

    daddyrie March 20, 2024 1:57 pm

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    daddyrie March 20, 2024 2:10 pm
    GOD I HOPE NOT. Villainess turn hourglass is basically a "Mean girl" fantasy. Both FMC and ML are bullies pretending to be the victim lmao. They are both evil, manipulative, self centered and opportunistic duo.... Suzzu

    yes the mc in the villainess turns the hourglass wasn’t a good person, so? i don’t expect protagonists to be always be “good” people, morally ambiguous characters are less boring anyways. it’s not like aria was evil for the sake of being evil, she just got revenge on those he treated her and her mother like a worms just because of their backgrounds. you’re acting as if mielle was some innocent saint, she constantly mocked and plotted against even after aria’s regression. remember that all aria did at the beginning of her second life was show off that she was smarter than mielle at their family dinner and mielle then decided to sabotage her carriage so that she could have an accident. mielle literally framed aria and had her executed in the first life and you’re calling her foolish and naive? how was aria in a position of power from the start when she was an adopted daughter born from a prostitute who was treated like a worm in that household? i don’t see why aria should have any empathy towards people like mielle and her brother he mistreated her, i honestly hate characters who forgive those who bullied them. the only ones who aria came after, were those who come after her fast. the only exception was the maid who was the reason aria was framed for murder in her past life. did you read that story with your eyes closed?

    daddyrie March 20, 2024 2:13 pm
    GOD I HOPE NOT. Villainess turn hourglass is basically a "Mean girl" fantasy. Both FMC and ML are bullies pretending to be the victim lmao. They are both evil, manipulative, self centered and opportunistic duo.... Suzzu

    and honestly i don’t see how much of what you’re saying is relevant to what i said. i just said i hope penelope would take revenge on those who mistreated and abused her instead of having to act servile and forgiving them just so that she can live. i didn’t say i wanted the story to be exactly the same as the villainess turns the hourglass. it’s just frustrating how penelope has to act nice even when she doesn’t want to towards people who haven’t considered her feelings

    Suzzu March 20, 2024 2:41 pm
    and honestly i don’t see how much of what you’re saying is relevant to what i said. i just said i hope penelope would take revenge on those who mistreated and abused her instead of having to act servile and... daddyrie

    I think you need to reread this webtoon because if you did you should known Penelope DOES NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OR THE MEANS to be an immature girl like the hourglass protagonist and second she is not that evil girl. I dare say your comment is objectively speaking the irrelevant and technically impossible for her.
    As for the later comment... It's spoiler but technically most of the lack of empathy comes from forces outside of their controll. SPOILER *Theyarecurrentlybeingbrainwashed* SPOILER END.

    Suzzu March 20, 2024 2:51 pm
    yes the mc in the villainess turns the hourglass wasn’t a good person, so? i don’t expect protagonists to be always be “good” people, morally ambiguous characters are less boring anyways. it’s not lik... daddyrie

    Mean girl fantasy ~ I guess your a sociopath sympathizer...

    Mielle was not a saint but does a person need to be one to no be of subject of bullying without them doing anything wrong? Need I remind you that the protag of hourglass constantly tormented and attacked the girl after she regressing Fei absolutely no reason?? The girl never hurted or harmed the protagonist. The protagonist continuously harmed the girl without any reason other than pure pleasure and absolutely not for survival reasons... I guess you only read the webtoon because webtoon utterly skipped the that part to make the protagonist look good. And clearly you also didn't read the webtoon as well either.

    Anyways I see it is useless to reason to someone that is hardcore fan of the serie and love bullies and sociopaths... Reply if you want. I won't I don't have time to talk to a wall.

    daddyrie March 20, 2024 4:17 pm

    i’m aware she doesn’t have the luxury lol im not criticising the story, i was just saying it’s frustrating watching her bend over to people who have constantly disrespected her. it would be more satisfying to watch her plan out revenge but i’m aware it’s not that sort of story, can i not just vent frustrations about annoying characters like those in the duchy? many other people have expressed similar thoughts, it’s not that serious

    daddyrie March 20, 2024 4:22 pm

    are you unable to separate reality from fiction? “sociopath sympathiser”, you can’t be serious. and you clearly didn’t read that webtoon properly of you think mielle did nothing to aria in the second life, she literally has aria’s carriage sabotaged so she could have an accident just because aria’s embroidery was better than hers. i’m only talking about the webtoon, i don’t care whatever happened in the novel because i’m not talking about that. you need to calm down, it sounds like you don’t even know what a sociopath is

    honey bunny March 21, 2024 1:37 pm
    GOD I HOPE NOT. Villainess turn hourglass is basically a "Mean girl" fantasy. Both FMC and ML are bullies pretending to be the victim lmao. They are both evil, manipulative, self centered and opportunistic duo.... Suzzu

    I love that story and this story, and the other one with black haired and rabbit (forgot the title), both of them shows that they are not perfect protagonist unlike the other 'villainess' who becomes nice and every thing else falls into places.

    This stories, we show that they struggle and they are not 100% good.

    Meercat March 23, 2024 5:24 pm

    Right?? Like "if I change my behavior and not acknowledge the wrong I've done, people will just assume I've changed". It's like those youtubers who did bad things in the past, and then in their apologies they're saying they've changed and stuff

    Lyricalbunny March 26, 2024 5:53 pm
    GOD I HOPE NOT. Villainess turn hourglass is basically a "Mean girl" fantasy. Both FMC and ML are bullies pretending to be the victim lmao. They are both evil, manipulative, self centered and opportunistic duo.... Suzzu

    What do you expect from a story titled “the villainess reverse the hourglass”? Sunshine and rainbows? She a villainess, she did all the actions a villainess would do to take down her enemies.

    Mielle isn’t a saint nor she was a bullied girl(in terms of power balance Mielle had more influence than Aria since she the biological daughter), she planned to kill Aria since the start. Thinking about Aria as a disgusting existence.
    She manipulated Aria in the OG timeline and then got her killed; she poisoned Aria mother for hell sake. And than used that same poison the farm Aria for poisoning her; Mielle was a narcissist and classic bitch that believed in the supremacy of noble blood (she only started to feel sorry for her actions when she learned that Aria has noble blood in her)
    Aria only gave Mielle back the karma and did basically the same things Mielle did to her in the OG timeline, she basically took the uno reverse card and said “no u”

    You all say you want complex FL or a vengeance seeking FL but you can’t handle it when the FL does just that; seek vengeance or that she a morally grey character.

    Lyricalbunny March 26, 2024 6:03 pm

    Now about the original comment of this post, I agree it’s kinda gets tiring to see Penelope gets treated like horse shit and the fact that she needs to act nice and lower her head is frustrating.
    Penelope is amazing character and I enjoy her strength and persistence to stay alive.

    It’s obvious that the system is restricting her in lots of ways and situations, she can’t do anything without the system knowing and restricting her and before the “hard route” ends and the “normal route” begins, she will probably have more freedom after her coming to age ceremony and I can’t wait for her to get away from that house.

    daddyrie March 26, 2024 6:07 pm
    What do you expect from a story titled “the villainess reverse the hourglass”? Sunshine and rainbows? She a villainess, she did all the actions a villainess would do to take down her enemies. Mielle isn’t... Lyricalbunny

    EXACTLY!

    daddyrie March 26, 2024 6:08 pm
    Now about the original comment of this post, I agree it’s kinda gets tiring to see Penelope gets treated like horse shit and the fact that she needs to act nice and lower her head is frustrating. Penelope is ... Lyricalbunny

    yeah i’m currently reading the novel and the coming of age ceremony is a massive turning point

    Lyricalbunny March 26, 2024 6:29 pm
    EXACTLY! daddyrie

    I’m so tired of people viewing everything in black and white, good or bad… it’s obvious that most of them can’t think critically and think that fiction is reality.
    Calling someone a sociopath sympathizers just because they love the “gaslight gatekeep girlboss” main character of a fictional story set in historical times is insane.

    Sociopath sympathizers are those who sympathize with serial killers irl, or those who did horrible things (Andrew Tate for example who is a literal criminal) and their fans get into white knights mode to defend their idols even though their idols her pieces of garbage that can’t be recycled

    Lyricalbunny March 26, 2024 6:30 pm
    yeah i’m currently reading the novel and the coming of age ceremony is a massive turning point daddyrie

    Honestly can’t wait for it because it’s a point that got talked about since the start of the manhwa and I waited so long for it