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Miamatsuoka December 21, 2023 6:42 pm

Why is everyone so pressed? This is average yaoi though. Maybe some people got too used to BL manwha. But un yaoi this kind of plot is so recurrent. I don’t remember people stopping to express their judgment back in the day. We used to read yaoi and like or dislike it. Nowadays is so annoying how everybody is making judgements about characters and plots in yaoi. Nobody wants a realistic representation of homosexuality in yaoi. Who cares if the characters are morally correct or incorrect. It’s fiction ffs. Enjoy or not. But nobody cares about things being good or bad.

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    XieLianForever6969 December 22, 2023 5:50 am

    XieLianForever6969 December 22, 2023 5:54 am

    sorry its just that this comment is so insanely chronically online that i cringed so badly

    Mel December 25, 2023 5:36 am
    sorry its just that this comment is so insanely chronically online that i cringed so badly XieLianForever6969

    your so real for this

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ March 20, 2024 9:55 am

    People just forget that bl/yaoi are made by straight women for straight women/or people , i don't know why gay people come in between and say it's wrong yea it is cuz it's fiction and who created it is not even gay so it's made for enjoyment not to represent reality

    XieLianForever6969 March 20, 2024 3:45 pm
    People just forget that bl/yaoi are made by straight women for straight women/or people , i don't know why gay people come in between and say it's wrong yea it is cuz it's fiction and who created it is not even... RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼

    actually insane to say oh my god i hate when fujos treat gay people as if their opinion doesn't matter when fujos are the one fetishizing them, its like??? because you're already getting off on two men fucking, i don't know why fujos feel so entitled to gay porn like they own gay people or something and that being gay isnt a real thing and that its just a porn thing

    its like actually unreal to me how you can fetishize an entire sexuality and then say like
    gay people have no say in this!" because whether its real or not, YOU'RE the one getting off to gay sex so..???

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ March 20, 2024 4:29 pm
    actually insane to say oh my god i hate when fujos treat gay people as if their opinion doesn't matter when fujos are the one fetishizing them, its like??? because you're already getting off on two men fucking... XieLianForever6969

    Omg you people seriously have no life you are reading work of 2 men which is written by straight women and you expect reality from it why don't you try BARA then cuz it written by gay men if it's fetishes or whatever you say it's us women who enjoy it why it's so problem for you my gay friend also read yaoi and he never says bad about it he says it's same as straight storyline why you think that yaoi suppose to represent good community like LGBTQ i never ever want yaoi/bl to represent LGBTQ community cuz seriously it has lots of toxicity that fujoshis enjoy not particularly meant to represent real people , oh seriously we don't get off to gay sex I mean i definitely don't, if it don't clear up my point then i don't know if it's something wrong you by comparing fiction to reality cyx most of you people don't even know how to read things without comparing fictional stuff to reality

    XieLianForever6969 March 20, 2024 4:37 pm
    Omg you people seriously have no life you are reading work of 2 men which is written by straight women and you expect reality from it why don't you try BARA then cuz it written by gay men if it's fetishes or wh... RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼

    LMFAOAOOAOAOAOAAOAO i honestly dont get what you're accusing me of but i don't know why you're acting as if i shouldn't hold bl writers or just the entire community accountable for story lines that you yourself admit are toxic and bad???? i honestly don't care what happens in the manga because yeah its not real i don't give a fuck about the characters, I'm saying YOURE the one who decided to read it and the author should also be held accountable for writing it, whats there not to get???

    XieLianForever6969 March 20, 2024 4:41 pm
    Omg you people seriously have no life you are reading work of 2 men which is written by straight women and you expect reality from it why don't you try BARA then cuz it written by gay men if it's fetishes or wh... RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼

    i also dont know why youre bringing your gay friend into it LMFAOOOOOO you're the one who said " i don't know why gay people come in between" as if it doesn't involve gay people in the first place you cant read bl and it not be gay, its gay so its a part of the lgbtq community, saying its not is homophobic by itself because you're basically taking a type of manga that has two men that have sex and choosing to say its not gay for the purpose of continuing to read toxic gay porn without the opinion of gay people

    XieLianForever6969 March 20, 2024 4:43 pm
    Omg you people seriously have no life you are reading work of 2 men which is written by straight women and you expect reality from it why don't you try BARA then cuz it written by gay men if it's fetishes or wh... RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼

    and dont try and kid yourself my saying fujos don't get off to bl no way your entire community of low lives read porn for a living and don't flick the bean to it because i have seen fujos say they get off to it

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ March 20, 2024 4:49 pm
    LMFAOAOOAOAOAOAAOAO i honestly dont get what you're accusing me of but i don't know why you're acting as if i shouldn't hold bl writers or just the entire community accountable for story lines that you yoursel... XieLianForever6969

    Look I simply meant to say which is something written by straight person cannot represent something that is real (gay people) I added gay community only to say you called fujoshis that get off to gay sex which is not true just cuz we like mxm doesn't mean we enjoy only go after gay porn (which i don't I look for storyline) so i added gay person here cuz most of them complaint about yaoi not representing gay stuff with reality which you should never expect to begin with from yaoi i fastly wrote gay person or people who are too much sensitive to gay stuff complaint lot without enjoying a story as it is which main commenter also meant I was agreeing with it.

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ March 20, 2024 4:52 pm
    and dont try and kid yourself my saying fujos don't get off to bl no way your entire community of low lives read porn for a living and don't flick the bean to it because i have seen fujos say they get off to i... XieLianForever6969

    I don't there are type of fujoshis I m simple one i don't enjoy tooo much dick show in yaoi i like intimacy and love scenes between mxm rather than porn angles

    XieLianForever6969 March 20, 2024 5:01 pm
    Look I simply meant to say which is something written by straight person cannot represent something that is real (gay people) I added gay community only to say you called fujoshis that get off to gay sex which ... RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼

    i get your point that gay people shouldn't expect accurate representation from bl because its written by straight women who cant accurately depict gay men, but i don't think you should be pissed about THAT. its not really their fault for wanting gay manga to not be toxic or fetishized, even if its written by a straight woman, because it CAN be done.
    my point is that rather than being angry at gay people for expecting something good out of bl, you should be angry at authors and fujos for promoting toxicity (pedophilia, sexual assault, incest, tons of things that happen in bl media).

    i also get your point that fujos dont get off to gay sex, but that's something inevitable. i also read bl for the plot because its a lot more creative and interesting than shoujo, but there's obviously fujos out there that get their rocks off to bl. its porn. there's going to be somebody out there basterbating to it; it would be way stranger if there wasnt

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ March 20, 2024 5:06 pm
    i get your point that gay people shouldn't expect accurate representation from bl because its written by straight women who cant accurately depict gay men, but i don't think you should be pissed about THAT. its... XieLianForever6969

    Agree you on that part bl is more interesting than shojo but every genre has different shades so there are some romantic and healthy bl as well and than it goes down to earth with toxicity that most of people enjoy ( i also do ) but using bl for sexual pleasure damn that's not good. But as there are many seinen which is targeting women in sexual way , bl also do that to men so it's like tit for tat in this way it's manga industry with different genre there is actually no point into arguing on it. It only made it more complex

    XieLianForever6969 March 20, 2024 5:20 pm
    Agree you on that part bl is more interesting than shojo but every genre has different shades so there are some romantic and healthy bl as well and than it goes down to earth with toxicity that most of people e... RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼

    i agree that seinen and just male-targeted manga in general involve a lot of sexualization of women and fanservice, but the thing is that that's a man and a woman, with bl its two men and the audience is women, so in addition to sexualizing men (which i dont get because either way its part of the genre), you're also sexualizing gay relationships

    RARE°INSIGHTS•やおい◼ March 20, 2024 5:37 pm
    i agree that seinen and just male-targeted manga in general involve a lot of sexualization of women and fanservice, but the thing is that that's a man and a woman, with bl its two men and the audience is women,... XieLianForever6969

    I as straight woman cannot say much what gay people feel I simply enjoy mxm , both gendres of people do their share amount sexualizing and people read them.