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Yaoi Logic again

Yui103 August 4, 2016 8:58 pm

I made this statement once and I'm gonna do it again. I don't understand why u guys r so hung up on blaming seme cuz he rape Yuu, blames Yuu by saying he making the first move, says he won't let him go but did. U guys should know this already, THEY R GOING TO GET TOGETHER IN THE END SO SUCK IT UP its part of yaoi. This is just my personal opinion so I apologize if I have offended any of u. (●'◡'●)ノ

Responses
    Miara August 4, 2016 9:30 pm

    At one point I agree with you, they will end up together that's just a simple yaoi logic and I like them together so I'm not bothered.

    Then again people have the right to blame whoever they want, the seme did rape the uke, words such as " I love you" sounds almost ironic coming from him although he regrets it, the fact that the uke begged him to stop can't be erased.

    Why would u blame the uke I honestly don't see how is the uke fault, they were young and in love or so yuu thought before he was raped.

    Don't get me wrong I got nothing against the way the story is going so far but about people blaming the seme (although idc cause rape in yaoi is so common) have their own reasons to do so. Therefore no they won't suck it up about something that is wrong.

    That's all I wanted to say ^-^

    Anoni Grrl August 4, 2016 10:46 pm

    Like Miara, I agree with you that they will end up together and this is part of Yoai. One the other hand, I find the seme hard to like because he is so lacking in self awareness and what he says and what he does is still in conflict. I'm still going to read it, and I'll enjoy the hot sex even when I know I'll disagree with how the two of them will resolve everything. For me it's not about rape alone--it's about the seme's total lack of respect for the uke in general and how the seme says he wants to be partners but keeps enforcing his will alone and not listening or taking the uke's feelings into account.

    If that just happened during sex, I might not mind. I don't like to see it in business or their personal life though. So I'll read it, and I'll even enjoy it, but I will still think the seme is acting wrong some of the time.

    Yui103 August 5, 2016 12:38 am

    Yes i see ur guys point but my thoughts r just purely my opinion and I do agree with u guys .I felt like I just had to state my opinion again, with everybody hating on someone on the manga. (=・ω・=)

    Anoni Grrl August 5, 2016 1:47 am
    Yes i see ur guys point but my thoughts r just purely my opinion and I do agree with u guys .I felt like I just had to state my opinion again, with everybody hating on someone on the manga. (=・ω・=) Yui103

    Oh, there is nothing wrong with your opinion. I'm just chatting :)

    Yui103 August 5, 2016 1:50 am
    Oh, there is nothing wrong with your opinion. I'm just chatting :) Anoni Grrl

    ^_^

    Miara August 5, 2016 2:02 am
    Yes i see ur guys point but my thoughts r just purely my opinion and I do agree with u guys .I felt like I just had to state my opinion again, with everybody hating on someone on the manga. (=・ω・=) Yui103

    It's okay, I like people that states their opinion cause I always state mine too so no worries, I really like the manga tho and Ofc I'm hoping for a super sweet ending too hehe

    Yui103 August 5, 2016 5:03 am

    Ikr (≧∀≦)

    Aobutt August 5, 2016 2:42 pm

    I'm not the type to blame someone for getting rapped , since I experienced it first hand... but jfc, the uke is so indecisive with his fucking feelings, it would confuse anyone if it was okay to continue or not. Like first, the uke is like, let's make out and lemme give you head... but five seconds later, "don't fucking touch me". Is he for real? Like holy SHIT, get your feelinga figured out before you lead people on. :/

    Yui103 August 5, 2016 2:43 pm
    I'm not the type to blame someone for getting rapped , since I experienced it first hand... but jfc, the uke is so indecisive with his fucking feelings, it would confuse anyone if it was okay to continue or not... Aobutt

    U got a point

    Anoni Grrl August 5, 2016 6:55 pm
    I'm not the type to blame someone for getting rapped , since I experienced it first hand... but jfc, the uke is so indecisive with his fucking feelings, it would confuse anyone if it was okay to continue or not... Aobutt

    I see it differently. The uke is acting out sexually in private to try to reestablish control--but it is clear the uke does not want to be kissed or fondled in public (the seme knows this and threatens him with it) and the seme takes advantage of a situation to force it even after the uke capitulated to the seme's demands. The one clear thing the uke asked was for the seme to back off, but the seme would not. The seme's idea of a "discussion" is making unilateral pronouncements about invading the uke's home, personal space, and business regardless of how the uke feels and what the uke wants. All that crap about being "sorry" and wanting a "partner" means nothing if the seme never does anything because it is what the uke wants, regardless of what the seme wants and if the seme never actually shows respect the uke. The seme is a hypocrite.

    Of course,there is nothing wrong with your opinion. I just personally want to slap the seme. There are some stories where I want to slap the uke (I don't like wimpy ukes either). It is probably a matter of personal taste. I hate the type that smiles and gives lip service to love but acts like a totally self-centered ass.

    Yui103 August 5, 2016 7:20 pm

    Ok ppl they r both to blame and everyone got a different opinion so just leave it lol

    Anoni Grrl August 5, 2016 7:41 pm
    Ok ppl they r both to blame and everyone got a different opinion so just leave it lol Yui103

    Sorry. :) I didn't mean it as a serious argument. It's just how I talk about stories.

    Miara August 5, 2016 8:27 pm
    I see it differently. The uke is acting out sexually in private to try to reestablish control--but it is clear the uke does not want to be kissed or fondled in public (the seme knows this and threatens him with... Anoni Grrl

    I totally agree with you, the seme assumes he loves the uke yet his possessiveness towards the uke shows that he doesn't take the uke feelings and requests into consideration at all.

    Aobutt August 6, 2016 2:50 am
    I see it differently. The uke is acting out sexually in private to try to reestablish control--but it is clear the uke does not want to be kissed or fondled in public (the seme knows this and threatens him with... Anoni Grrl

    I totally agree with everything you said, I just hate to see the seme only get the blame when the uke clearoy forced himself twice on the seme. Regardless of the circumstances of wanting to dominate the situation, no still means no. And the seme clearly rejected him both times... the first time he rejected him though, he got swept up in the moment, but the second time, he pushed the uke away,bevause he knows that the uke isn't doing it out of love but just because he was jealous when the seme said they wouldn't ever have sex again. Again, I believe both parties are wrong for the things they have done so far.