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I'm not sorry to bring it to you all -again- that's utter bullshit, it's not a rape. Nakyu...

Chapter 21 - Is the sex scene September 7, 2019 2:21 pm

I'm not sorry to bring it to you all -again- that's utter bullshit, it's not a rape. Nakyum wasn't almost unconscious he was clearly conscious enough to stand up and kiss another man and give himself voluntarily out of his own free will to that exact man. Conscious enough to exactly explain what he wanted and how he wanted it.

Basically, for some of you Nakyum is some sort of puppy or a baby. No, he is a grown man, sad and drunk, but still a grown man. Seungho was also drunk, does that mean when he was kissed by Nakyum it was non-consensual ? If one want to use the "drunk card" with Nakyum, then you have to use it for both of them. That's completely stupid, but it's your argument.

I just can't see how someone can think of it as a rape. And even in our time, it's not a crime for two drunk men to fuck together, even if one partner is drunk enough that they don't who they fuck but still clearly kiss you and tell you how they want to be fucked : you cannot call that a rape. Come on, get real people.

When someone speak about non-consensual intercourse it means rape, because the very definition of rape is the lack of consent. With a rape case a judge - everywhere in the world - will try to find out if there is a consent or not by using generally three notions : contraint, violence, surprise. Seungho didn't use violence, contraint or surprise, and thus didn't raped Nakyum. So please do tell me how is it a rape again ?

One could make a case and argue that it's a rape because Seungho took advantage of the situation and used some "surprise" here in order to deceive Nakyum into having sex with him : but he wasn't the one who first act on it. It was Nakyum - a grown man not a puppy - who kissed him and give himself to him.

But no, for some of you it's a rape because Nakyum was drunk and didn't know that the man he kissed and led to have sex with him wasn't the one he loved. Get real for 2 seconds. If that's your argument, every drunk person fucking another is a rapist. That's completely stupid.

Nakyum is an adulte, he was drunk and made a mistake and sadly that's why you don't get drunk like that in the first place, because if you do, you end up doing shit you'll regret. Nakyum is not a puppy, he is a grown man who end up drunk and doing shit he will surely regret

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    Anonymous September 7, 2019 2:44 pm

    You seriously had to make THAT your username??? Not arguing with you; just thought it was funny.

    Chapter 21 September 7, 2019 2:54 pm
    You seriously had to make THAT your username??? Not arguing with you; just thought it was funny. @Anonymous

    Lol I'm not used to that comment section : my bad !

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 2:55 pm

    You can't give consent when you are intoxicated. If he was so intoxicated that he didn't know with whom he sleep he was really drunk. So pleaee

    MangaSanctuary September 7, 2019 3:00 pm

    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Agree, my fellow Fujoshi!
    Another thing intrigues me: during all this time, NK was also able to hear the voice of Seungho; he's not deaf, so he might know who he's sleeping with. Because if your eyes can cheat you while drunk, your ears can't.

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:02 pm
    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Agree, my fellow Fujoshi!Another thing intrigues me: during all this time, NK was also able to hear the voice of Seungho; he's not deaf, so he might know who he's sleeping with. Because if you... MangaSanctuary

    No sorry hun it's crime

    L September 7, 2019 3:02 pm
    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ Agree, my fellow Fujoshi!Another thing intrigues me: during all this time, NK was also able to hear the voice of Seungho; he's not deaf, so he might know who he's sleeping with. Because if you... MangaSanctuary

    And you know shit about being drunk

    MangaSanctuary September 7, 2019 3:15 pm
    No sorry hun it's crime @Anonymous

    And your arguments are...?
    About me I don't have a precise opinion about this, I'll wait the next chapters to judge.
    Though Nakyum can clearly hear Seungho's voice and even reply to him. You know that people have different voice, right ? Or do you just think that NK is so stupid to the point he can't even discern voices?

    Chapter 21 September 7, 2019 3:19 pm
    You can't give consent when you are intoxicated. If he was so intoxicated that he didn't know with whom he sleep he was really drunk. So pleaee @Anonymous

    Like I said that's utter bullshit. Being drunk isn't a crime. Having sex with a drunk person isn't a crime either. If two young and drunk men such as Nakyum and Seungho fuck together while being drunk it isn't a crime, even if one of them made a mistake about who they are about to fuck.

    With your logic every drunk person fucking with another person is either a rapist or victime of rape, and that my friend it's utter bullshit. Not just bullshit but utter bullshit.

    If I'm drunk and give a blowjob to a stranger who is also drunk and if I call that stranger by my boyfriend's name, and the stranger still act on it : it will not be a rape, and it will not anyone's fault, neither for the stranger nor me. I'm a grown woman. If I drunk to the point of doing shit like this it's also my responsibility.

    Nakyum is a grown man and he is clearly conscious enough to explain how he like to be fucked, so it isn't a rape, he simply made a horrible mistake, and Seungho act on it.

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:21 pm
    Like I said that's utter bullshit. Being drunk isn't a crime. Having sex with a drunk person isn't a crime either. If two young and drunk men such as Nakyum and Seungho fuck together while being drunk it isn't ... @Chapter 21

    Nakyum was extremely drunk if he could even say if with whom he had sex. Seungho wasn't even drunk lol

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:22 pm
    And your arguments are...?About me I don't have a precise opinion about this, I'll wait the next chapters to judge.Though Nakyum can clearly hear Seungho's voice and even reply to him. You know that people have... MangaSanctuary

    He calls him sir over and over again.

    Nemaki September 7, 2019 3:25 pm

    So if YOU were drunk, and one day you would confuse someone with your husband, calling his name and all and that person clearly knows that you're not in your right mind and know that you want to sleep with another person but not him but he still goes along with it... You wouldn't say it's sexual assault?
    Please... don't say it's consensual sex... Culture of rape

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:27 pm
    Like I said that's utter bullshit. Being drunk isn't a crime. Having sex with a drunk person isn't a crime either. If two young and drunk men such as Nakyum and Seungho fuck together while being drunk it isn't ... @Chapter 21

    OMFG from the start he though and called him but other name. Seungho knew NK didn't want to sleep with him and he thought he was someone else. Stop your manipulative BS.

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:29 pm

    Yes, please be sorry and stop the crap. How many topics and answers are you planing to create to justify the crap Seungho is doin? One knows who he fucks and the other thinks he knows but its the wrong person. Yeah, being not right in his mind makes him at fault? He pushed the buttons first because of alcohol and still believe its his beloved teacher? Your arguments just makes me want to throw up. Its still wrong using someone and with that being okay is a mistake.

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:29 pm
    Like I said that's utter bullshit. Being drunk isn't a crime. Having sex with a drunk person isn't a crime either. If two young and drunk men such as Nakyum and Seungho fuck together while being drunk it isn't ... @Chapter 21

    And you don't have to be unconscious when you are drunk so it would be considered rape.
    Also Seungho wasn't drunk.looooool

    MangaSanctuary September 7, 2019 3:34 pm
    He calls him sir over and over again. @Anonymous

    And Seungho replies to him and him again, WITH HIS VOICE, not the voice of In Hun.

    Why are you all ignoring this point? How being drunk can deform voices to the point of not even recognize someone? Lmao, I don't get your logic, guys. For me, towards the end, NK knew with whom he had sex ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:42 pm
    And Seungho replies to him and him again, WITH HIS VOICE, not the voice of In Hun.Why are you all ignoring this point? How being drunk can deform voices to the point of not even recognize someone? Lmao, I don't... MangaSanctuary

    OMFG girl when you are super drunk everything mixed together, everything is unclear. You weren't really drunk and it shows.l

    Chapter 21 September 7, 2019 3:50 pm
    So if YOU were drunk, and one day you would confuse someone with your husband, calling his name and all and that person clearly knows that you're not in your right mind and know that you want to sleep with anot... Nemaki

    You don't have one person drunk but two here. And yes, if you are drunk and fuck someone out of your own free will : it's not a rape. You all can explain that when you are drunk you can't give consent but with your stupid logic that's means every person fucking while they are drunk are rapists or victims.

    If I give a blowjob to someone who is drunk and isn't my boyfriend and if I call that person by my boyfriend's name ; is it a rape or not ?

    In that case, exactly like Nakyum, I am the one who act first by kissing him, because the other partner didn't have any intention of kissing me. In that same situation, if I ask to have sexual intercourse : how is it only my partner's fault ?

    You basically treat Nakyum like he is some puppy. No, he is a grown man, who choose to get drunk ; who choose to kiss another man ; who choose to fuck that man ; and who explain how he wants to be fucked by that man. Being drunk isn't an excuse, Nakyum made a mistake that's all and Seungho despicably took advantage of it.

    If you want a scene were Seungho have sexually assaulted Nakyum it's the handjob scene, not this one.

    maya September 7, 2019 3:51 pm

    It depends on the law in your country. As far as I know in our country, if a person is under the influence of drugs, alcohol or has a mental disabilty even if he/she said yes, that is rape. Saying 'Yes' or giving 'Consent' while the person is under any of this circumstances is not considered as a 'Legal Consent'.

    I don't want any argument, all I am saying is that it really depends on the country. But I believe it is a most followed law in general. And I don't believe Seungho was drunk at that time.

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:55 pm
    You don't have one person drunk but two here. And yes, if you are drunk and fuck someone out of your own free will : it's not a rape. You all can explain that when you are drunk you can't give consent but with ... @Chapter 21

    OMFG you seriously compare kissing to fucking XDadadadadd

    Anonymous September 7, 2019 3:56 pm
    You don't have one person drunk but two here. And yes, if you are drunk and fuck someone out of your own free will : it's not a rape. You all can explain that when you are drunk you can't give consent but with ... @Chapter 21

    In many countries being under influence and being taken advantage of by someone who is clearly not drunk is considered rape. Sorry hun